Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Arrowind on September 24, 2011, 10:49:15 pm
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I think it's time for me to finally get a scraper. I've used a pocket knife, a fixed blade knife, even box cutters.... but I think I want to actually get the tool...
Would you please recommend a good one? I'd like to hear what you've tried and what you prefer... Thanks in advance!
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A half pair pf scissors sharpened with an Acusharp scissors sharpener works really well.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/scissorsscraper.jpg)
I like a Mystic longbow scraper pretty well. I have a Bowyers edge as well, cuts good but I have never been able to get the chatter out of it when I go over a change in the grain direction.
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You can buy a set of scrapers with 4 or 5 different ones like the regular rectangular, one with concave edge, one with convex edge and a gooseneck...for less than $20. Look at Lowe's, Home Depot or other tool stores or you can order a set from Grizzley Industries.
You can also make a good scraper with old saw blades or even a cheap pair of scissors taken apart to reveal 2 scrapers.
You beat me to the punch, Eric! ;)
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my favorite scraper right now is the handle on my buck hatchet, its one of te one where the head goes all the way through the handle, i love the way it feels scrpping over a piece of yew ;D
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Took an old flat file, big one, and ground an edge on one side fairly steep. Then put a stone to it and fitted a hickory handle to the tang. Super two handed scraper that really moves wood.
Also use the Mystic scraper from 3Rivers though I felt raped when I bought it.
Lane
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I use and glass out of and eye glasses works really good in those dips where straight metal scrapers can't get. If the backs flat I'll use a metal scraper.
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I use three.
(1) is not used that much but it's a krenov style wood plane set with a 55* cutting angle (I think, check the angle at HNT Gordon planes). At that angle you can turn the blade over and it becomes a scraper. I made it so It has chip release issues.
(2) a plain rectangle card scraper. You don't need an expensive "burnisher". The side of a quality screwdriver works just fine.
(3) My favorite is a paint scraper blade. They come two ways. The kind tha you can turn over and spin around to give 4 cutting edges. NOt that one. I get the cheaper one from a true value that only has one blade and then on the other side is a curled under bump bent out of the metal. I file it so that it's NOT square but a verrrrrrry shallow arc. Like 1/16 comes off the corners and there is a slight flat right in the center.
I mount that on a spokeshave like body that is super simple to make. It gives great silky cuts in nearly all woods. It sharpens easily also. I just use wet dry sandpaper (after it's filed to shape) glued to a thick piece of acrylic or the screwdriver shaft to create a burr.
(4) I also cut detail scrapers from old hacksaw blades. Use a carbide cutting bit and then grind or file them to shape. Then set the edge as you would on a card scraper. They work super well. If you have any older machine or metal shops around the blades from a "power hacksaw" are great but they may send them for sharpening. Those will be much bigger. The dull blades from a sawzall work realy well also. You are after the metal quality and type. So don't get hung up on "it must be a hacksaw blade". My favorite is a shallow bulge cut that also has like a katana point on it.
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If you decide to start using scrapers you'll need a one with a curved blade to help with the chasing rings that dip up and down on osage. I use a set of shave hooks. I also use a Swedish push knife as a scraper. For years, I used and old meat cleaver. The picture shows my drawknife, shave hooks and push knife from top to bottom. Jawge
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/Jawge/Tools/shavehooks-1.jpg)
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It's hard to beat just a plain old card scraper that is properly sharpened.
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I use both a card scraper and a similar pushknife as George.
The pushknife i use on "bigger" jobs where the cardscraper gets a bit too hot to handle.
/Mikael
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Eric Krewsons' 1/2 scissor scraper is very hard to beat. I tried it and it works great. I have the exact pair of scissor scrapers that Eric is showing. I got them from Wally World, they got dull quickly and ended up in the junk drawer. I took them apart, burnished the edge with a screwdriver handle, (Eric showed me how to do that also) and they work great. So, if you have an old pair of scissors that are dull and don't cut, recycle them into scrapers. Bill
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A red devil paint scraper works well too. Not the "putty knife" or "spatula" type or what you would use for spackle, but the kind that has the two blades on each side of the end.
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Hey Guys,
I really appreciate all the comments. It's so much more helpful to ask people with experience to get some Idea of what to do.
I think I will probably try the scissors Idea to start since I think I already have a pair that would be good candidate for that. Once I have a some extra cash I'll try the other recommendations as well.
Thanks for all your advice!
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I have a Mystic scraper and love it to pieces. The curved ends work knots well, and its easily sharpened with a bastard file.
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I paid $1.89 for my favorite scraper blade new from True Value. Came as a pack of two. the Red devils would also work I guess but I like the spokeshave body I made.
I'd like to figure out how to use that blade on more of a hand plane body for the leveling scrape.
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i don't have anything to compare against but i got a pair of bahco scrapers from woodcraft and love them. properly sharpened and burnished they can really rip a ribbon of ipe off a bow. again, i have no scrapers to compare to. they're my first ones and i like them much better than scissors :P ace hardware also sells a 5 pack of different shapes for a good price and i'd bet they would sharpen up just like mine do.
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http://www. axminster.co.uk/veritas-veritas-super-hard-milled-scrapers-prod788351/
This is what you want! These are way better than cheap scrapers ;)
When properly sharpened with a fresh burr....wood comes off so well I won't use anything else! I started off with some cheapo scrapers and used them for ages...not even comparible to these. I think quality tools are worth their weight in gold - buy cheap buy twice ;)
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I have also used the side of a Hock hand plane blade.
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My 'on the road' scraper is simply the back side of my draw knife filed flat and burnished. Two tools in one that way. But don't burnish it towards the flat side it boogers up the wood when chasin a ring.
Josh