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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: osage outlaw on July 05, 2011, 01:18:59 pm

Title: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: osage outlaw on July 05, 2011, 01:18:59 pm
I stopped in Lowes today to pick up some shellac to seal some osage staves with.  As I walked into the paint area, I noticed a shelf with cans of mis-tinted paint and stain at a greatly reduced price.  There were a lot of deck stain cans, and I even saw a can of minwax polyshade marked down.  I know the polyshade would work, but what about the rest?  Would paint or deck water seal work as well as shellac?  I am a budgeted bowyer and always looking to save money, but I don't want to risk loosing staves to save a few dollars.  I ended up buying the quart of shellac for $14, but saved the reciept.  I think I might return it and get the polyshade.
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: JackCrafty on July 05, 2011, 02:11:30 pm
Yep, the "oops" paints and sealers will work.  The deck stain will work of water beads up on it.  I use latex paint or woodworkers glue.
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: Dean Marlow on July 05, 2011, 02:18:56 pm
I went to the store this morning to pick up some Shellac and I couldn't believe how they have jacked the price up on these Shellac's and Poly's. I gave 17.99 for a quart of Shellac. My wife bought me a gallon of Poly this winter at out Local Farm and Home store for 3.00. It was a close out off brand Poly. I should have jumped back in the car and went and bought more. The price of making staves is definitely going up. Dean
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: crooketarrow on July 05, 2011, 04:08:59 pm
  When I first started I used spray paint for years. ANYTHING to slow or stop the moisture from leaveing the ends faster than the back. Best to seal completely. I spray mine them go back and respray in a month or so. Did well over 50 or more like this. I still have a couple osage sprayed there over 20 years old. I've used just plain old wood glue for a long time. Works really good if you have to seal the whole bow or stave. Can't get any cheaper than dollor spray paint.
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: bcbull on July 05, 2011, 05:40:11 pm
guys  get ur poly at wally world heck i pay 9.99 a gallon polys poly far as im conderd brock
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: blackhawk on July 05, 2011, 06:10:02 pm
Go stick it in a cold stream for the first few months or so. Or go down to your local swamp and get some of that black,thick,gooey,sludge mud and slap it on the ends. I've actually done this for temporary and it worked. Not sure about long term. You might have to recover with mud every month. It wood be free tho. Anyone ever try that long term.  ::)
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: osage outlaw on July 05, 2011, 11:18:17 pm
I returned the shellac and bought two dented cans of polyurethane.  Double the amount for $3.00 less.  I like shellac, but the poly will have to do for that price.
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: Lombard on July 05, 2011, 11:45:23 pm
Osage outlaw, we have an old time hardware store here that still carries the bags of shellac flakes. It is pretty cheap buying shellac that way, and by mixing it like that the shelf life is extended. Some of the stuff at the box stores has just been there to long and isn't suitable anyway. Perhaps you will run across one of the old time shops like that sometime, and save some mullah.
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: toomanyknots on July 06, 2011, 01:03:38 am
"Or go down to your local swamp and get some of that black,thick,gooey,sludge mud and slap it on the ends. I've actually done this for temporary and it worked."

I do that when I'm out in the field and cutting wood until I can get em home and cut and seal properly. It has kept osage staves that are sitting out in the hot summer sun for hours from checking until I can get em. I think it keeps the moisture from leaving the ends too fast as it's basically caking moisture right on it.

Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: Elktracker on July 06, 2011, 01:06:03 am
Yep, the "oops" paints and sealers will work.  The deck stain will work of water beads up on it.  I use latex paint or woodworkers glue.

This is how I do it glue or I have 5 gal of exterior house paint I use too.

Josh
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: Pappy on July 06, 2011, 07:28:13 am
Paint will work,I don't like it because I can't see the grain on the end of the stave
later when I am picking one,I just use cheap wood glue mixed with water about
2/3 glue 1/3 water and put it on with a brush,very cheap and easy to remove. :) :)
  Pappy
Title: Re: question about a cheap way to seal staves
Post by: Timo on July 06, 2011, 10:02:50 am
If you plan on doing any steam bending/correction to a green stave, then you better stick with shellac.

Just my 2 cents from many years of experience. ;)