Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: david w. on June 18, 2007, 11:47:17 pm
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my strings came in today so i started tillering. I don't like to brag ;)but i really suprized myself it alot better than i expected. ;D
ill post pics latter this week.
the only bad thing today is that my team lost our ball game :'(
thanks for the help every one
-david w.
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im probably wrong since this is my first bow. The tiller could actually be horrible and i dont know it because im a beginner. When I post pics i want everyone to be honest. If it terrible say its terrible.
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Too bad your teem lost but looking forward to seeing your bow. ;) Pat
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Can't wait to see it David,I am sure you are doing OK. :)
Pappy
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tillering today I hit 38lbs @ 20" I need to get it at 30lbs @ 20 in. I think im going t Lowes tonight to get a drawnife. I really want my mom to get home so i can put pictures here.
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your not going to tiller with a drawknife are you, rasp and scraper are all you need to tiller.
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o, I was planning on it. Thanks for stoping me. Is there a difference between a paint scraper(i think theres a thing called a paint scraper) and a scraper for tillering.
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hey david! - yes i guess there's a difference, but the native speakers should explain that... 38#@20" might be much closer to 30#@20" then you think right now! so go s l o o o o o w.... (we all can't wait to see the fulldraw picture, but we WILL wait!!!) 8)
what was your wood again? hickory??
good luck for your first bow, frank
ps: i still find the drawknife a tricky tool to work with. also there are MANY different kinds of drawknives for different purposes!! be always VERY carefull when you work with it and as dana said NEVER use it to tiller; it's a shaping tool!
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im going very slow now, exercising the limbs often. My dad made a scraper by taking the blade out of a plane. I cant wait to post pics either maybe tomorrow.
thanks foe the help,
david
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David for a scraper you can use a knife with a straight edge or make one from a thin piece of steel. There is thread somewhere on here about scrapers, do a search for scrapers. If ya have birthday comin up suggest to mom and dad that ya want the Traditional Bowyers Bible books. Hoping to see some pics soon and remember to take yer time. Good Luck
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Go to the depot and get a "cabinet" scraper...just a smallish rectangle of spring steel, should not be very expensive either.
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thanks for the help. I need to go to Lowes or Home Depot anyway to get a rasp. my bow is looking pretty good. my mom is getting home tomorrow late, so on thursday there should be pics
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If your planning on only taking off 8lbs, it will not take very much wood removal at all.
Course and finish sanding will take off almost that much.
mack
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earlier this morning I got it to 30lbs at 20"
Now I will tiller on a low brace.
the finished bow will be about 40-45lbs @ 28"
Expect to see pictures soon!
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If you are at 20" on a long string, just brace that sucker to full brace. A scraper is definitely what you need. Justin
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i can skip low brace and go to full brace? Thats great. I have a scraper now I really did need it now things are going much easier. Im waiting for one more thing to come in the mail and I be almost done. Il be finished Next week definately. My mom is coming home from Eastern Europe tonight pics of tiller will be tomorrow or friday.
Thanks for the help,
David Wilton
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Earlier in the bow making process I crushed a part of the bow in the vice about a 3 - 4 " secton just above center. My dad put this wood stiffening stuff in it and put it back in the vice it dried together and looks as good as new. I will also remove this in cutting an arrow rest. But i am still concerned what do you guys think?
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Maybe I should ask how long your tillering string is. Is it the same length as the bow, or is it hanging down 6". Some may disagree with me, but I usually go from long string to full brace. If you are at 20" with a string the same length as the bow, you need to get to full brace as soon as you can. Make sure you exercise the limbs a lot before you brace it though. If the damaged wood is in the non-bending area of the handle you should be fine. I put a piece of 1x4 pine in between the jaws of the vice and the bow, on each side. This protects the bow from damage. Slow down a little and get some pictures posted so guys can help you. You will have a lot better chance of getting a good bow if you wait for help. Justin
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the crushed part is in a non bending part of the handle. My long string is 81" and my bow ntn is 72" so it hangs down a little.
I cut some arrow shafts today Im going to be making fluflus
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Slow down a little and get some pictures posted so guys can help you. You will have a lot better chance of getting a good bow if you wait for help. Justin
I agree with Justin's comment above...!
David, when you're using the long string and checking your bow weight prior to brace, it is not at all accurate. You must have the bow to brace (with short string)when checking the draw weight to get an accurate poundage. If you have been bending the bow during your sessions between scrappings and feel that you've been bending the bow to brace height with a long string, then you should be okay to go to the short string and brace the bow. Try and keep the amount of time that you have the bow bent to a minimum during tillering. You could have some spots in your limbs that are thin and bending more, keeping the bow bent such as on a tillering stick for a very long duration will weaken those spots and increase the amount of set you'll have in the finished bow, or even possibly cause the bow to fail.
Like everyone is saying...take it slow and maybe give it a rest for a while until we can get a look see. However this bow turns out, I'm sure you'll have learned a whole lot from the making of it. You'll continue to improve with each bow you make! ;) :)
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thank you for the help. I will definately post pics
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I usually go to a low brace(3"-4") once the bow bends to about 8" to 10" on the long string. This is to be sure the limbs are bending evenly and together, and to see how the string tracks. If everything is OK(which it usually isn't ;D ) I exercise the bow and see how it looks just beyond brace height. Once I get a good even brace profile I work my way out to the weight and draw I want. Simple ??? Pat
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i said I would have pics today but my dad is working late so hopefully tommorw. I also will have pics of a fluflu arrow i made
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There's tillering info on my site along with several buildalongs. Jawge
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thank you it helped alot