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Title: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: soy on June 25, 2011, 06:51:00 pm
 >:DToday a bowyer friend gifted me gold ;Dive really had the fever bad seeing all those beautiful osage bows on this site
...aka the100 year fence post+the snakey+cameroo's hic.backed and every other one on here there are so many I could not stand it any longer!!!so being from mn.I've only had access. To the white woods so any osage pointers would be greatly welcomed. Im going to get the sap wood off and try to get it to the first big groth ring and there is the end of my plan.what should.
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 25, 2011, 07:45:13 pm
Sorry hit a wrong button :(darn small screans anyway what shuld I watch out for?any help would be great ;Dthanks.and I just got the sap wood off.
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 25, 2011, 07:47:00 pm
One more
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Post by: Pat B on June 25, 2011, 08:07:14 pm
You'll LOVE osage!!!  8)    What length is the stave? What draw length/weight are you going for?
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 25, 2011, 08:38:46 pm
It is 67.25" I had in my head 66"@60-65#
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: Elktracker on June 25, 2011, 09:50:03 pm
looks nice! keep us posted please ;D
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Post by: blackhawk on June 25, 2011, 10:02:14 pm
Looks like another gold digger in the making  ;D

Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: BowJunkie on June 25, 2011, 10:23:06 pm
You lucky dog, good luck.
Johnny
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: Pat B on June 25, 2011, 10:47:39 pm
You could easily make that. I'd go 66"t/t, 1 1/2" at the fades and out 6" to 8" and a straight taper ti 1/2" tips(for now). If you find the limbs getting too thin begin reducing the width by removing wood(scraping) on both sides.  I would make a symmetrical bow with the center of the handle in the center of the bow, a 4" handle(centered) and 1 1/2" to 2" fades.
Where is that knot located? Will you post a pic of the entire back.  This would be for a 28" draw length.
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 26, 2011, 01:51:37 am
Ill post a pic.o the back asap I've run into a bit of a pickle I started marking a target g.ring (tough to follow down the side by the way)and I noticed the opposite end has a completely diffrent looking set of rings.ill post pics of this also.the gold fever runs deep it promped me to buy a vice and build a workbench...what next??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: peshikthe on June 26, 2011, 02:02:26 am
the other end of the stave probably looks different because of the twisty and funky way osage grows, my latest molle was nearly dead flat on the bottom limb and the upper limb  was twisty and dippy and well you get the picture. keep asking questions and go slow and enjoy.
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: gstoneberg on June 26, 2011, 02:03:42 am
I don't mark out rings.  I start at one end and take that ring all the way to the other end.  Make sure you have excellent light when you're chasing a ring.  Sunlight is best if you can work outside.  Have fun.

George
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: Pat B on June 26, 2011, 02:16:31 am
The rings are different on each end of every stave no matter what wood it is just like the tree that it grew from. The trunk end of the log is bigger than the top. Don't worry about that. Get a good ring for your back then remove wood from the belly until the limbs are bending evenly and together.  I don't necessarily go down to the best ring either but the first good one I come to.  ;)
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 26, 2011, 03:38:06 am
The pics.in the shop lights did not turn out the best ill get some in the daylight and the knot is 9.75" from the end and dead center from my ttt line it shuld look darn cool it has a slight snake look I can't wait to see it come to life...than ;) 8)k you all for the help
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 26, 2011, 07:02:28 pm
I have gone3rings down got a few more to go .its kinda fun chasing rings who knew???
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: gstoneberg on June 26, 2011, 07:29:06 pm
Chasing rings can be fun.  But, after 4 billets and 1 stave yesterday, it can be just work.  Makes my hands sore too.  Have more to do out there, but have had trouble leaving the lazy boy today.  Might've been the massive lunch... 8)

That is a gorgeous piece of osage.  I haven't seen very many like that over the years.  Should make a great bow.

George
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: crooketarrow on June 26, 2011, 07:48:43 pm
        I perfer useing the back right under the sapwood. I only chase a ring if I have to. I sat the last 20 or so 0sage bows I've used the back. SURE IS PERTY WOOD ISN'T IT.
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 26, 2011, 08:23:16 pm
Yes it is awsome looking and I can see how it could closely resemble work! I would love to keep it on the ring im on it looks good. But it is just to thin...
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 27, 2011, 06:50:49 am
The limb w/o the knot is only able to have a width of just over 1.25" :-\
Am I going to be able to reach my60-65# target weight@66" ???
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 30, 2011, 08:21:39 pm
How worried should I be about a pin knot dead center of the bow in the handle?the handle is about 1"×1" I plan on adding wood to the belly side of it unless I should let it bend slightly. Any advice would be helpful ...thanks as always
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: gstoneberg on June 30, 2011, 10:14:59 pm
Knots in an unbending handle can be ignored.  Lots of times I lay out the bow to put a knot in the handle instead of in a limb.  Pin knots in the center of a limb should not cause a problem either.  If the top ring rises to go over the knot make sure you follow it up and over. 

Nearly all my osage bows are around 1.25" wide, you should have no problem making weight.

George
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on June 30, 2011, 10:40:36 pm
Thanks George. Also do I need to leave any rings on the belly side of a knot???
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: gstoneberg on July 01, 2011, 12:34:28 am
Let your tillering determine where belly wood needs to be removed or left. Knots in osage aren't a big deal most of the time unless they're quite large or right on the limb edge. Treat them carefully on the back and normally you're good to go.
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: MWirwicki on July 01, 2011, 12:38:45 am
You didn't mention how long ago it was cut.  If you peel it down, don't forget to put some cheap glue or finish on the back and ends of the "bow" to prevent checking.  If it is 100 year fence post, well you should be home free!
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!
Post by: soy on July 07, 2011, 04:58:51 am
Ok I got a little heavy handed with the drawknife. .might not make weight ...not out of the game yet I've brought her to work,on a ride, and gave her a bubble bath...now I've turned the tips slightly and im letting her sun tan in the dry box. I hope the next set of pics will include a string and good news..... :P
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: soy on July 23, 2011, 04:34:58 am
She is all done minus a couple more coats. Stole the skull desplay idea from this sight  >:D hope that I have not gone into tackey territory please let me know what ya all think
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: soy on July 23, 2011, 04:40:53 am
More pics
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: soy on July 23, 2011, 04:42:40 am
That is all
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: gstoneberg on July 23, 2011, 09:22:30 am
Looks real nice, love the grain on that handle.  What wood did you use there?  Looks like you handled that knot like a pro.  Great job!

George
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: dbb on July 23, 2011, 09:49:24 am
Nicely done!
That knothole would have made me nervous. looks really cool tho ;)
Is it wenge in the handle?

/Mikael
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: soy on July 23, 2011, 12:17:21 pm
I got the handle wood in jamaca 6 hers ago the locals calls it iron wood :D
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on July 23, 2011, 05:20:37 pm
Very nice work. Jawge
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: Will H on July 23, 2011, 09:08:42 pm
Nice work on that one! love the hole in the limb!  :D
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: El Destructo on July 23, 2011, 09:20:45 pm
Sweet looking Bow....I was a little worried when I seen the Braced Picture on the Garage Door....looked a little like a Hinge starting...but the Full Draw...tells it all...you nailed it...nice job handling that knot....
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: soy on July 24, 2011, 01:47:52 am
Thanks for the kind words, although it came in underweight it shoots where you look and is a pleasure to shoot witch is more important than the loss of a few lbs. ;)
Title: Re: Ive struck gold!!!(d o n e done!)
Post by: fusizoli on July 24, 2011, 03:26:01 pm
It looking goooood!