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Title: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 18, 2011, 01:25:18 pm
Just got another Osage selfbow off the bench and was shooting it yesterday and noticed it gives me a noticeable finger pinch compared to my longer Boo/boo.

She is 56" ntn, 56# @ 28"...I have a bit of recurve in the tips, well they started as recurved but I cut them down so they are more "flipped" than a true recurve.  Maybe the pinch feeling is normal for a shorter bow but I don't have much of a reference point.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4ltB9BwLe0E/Tf-fwandPaI/AAAAAAAACIc/ppcNpwAKqHQ/s912/CIMG1582.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K2aKMbAdrfc/Tf-gIHN2cUI/AAAAAAAACIg/9kQIxmKXtVc/s912/CIMG1583.JPG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YWKlTbxiSPc/Tf-gaz_qtTI/AAAAAAAACIo/F6KN3jIwmT0/s912/CIMG1584.JPG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XcDwovUFt3k/Tf-giqXIcnI/AAAAAAAACIw/OGM452-bZcY/s912/CIMG1589.JPG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7X62Pj-7DkU/Tf-gq5xdaTI/AAAAAAAACI0/yyQHhgxHRyg/s912/CIMG1590.JPG)

This is the same bow that started out looking like this...

https://picasaweb.google.com/BlackRiverRaptors/06_01_11 (https://picasaweb.google.com/BlackRiverRaptors/06_01_11)

Thanks
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: blackhawk on June 18, 2011, 01:52:57 pm
You know its illegal to talk about a bow and not show pictures here  :D

Is it a stiff handle or a bendy? Either way tho... yeah...your thinking right... a shorter bow is gonna have a sharper string angle causing more pinch on the fingers. I tend to draw my shorter bows with the string on my finger tips and not in the crease. It helps a lil. If you still don't like it you can maybe try a thumb loop on the string or a thumb ring. Or put a loop on for mechanical trigger release  ::)    ok.....kidding about that last one  ;)
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 18, 2011, 02:22:59 pm
I know...no pics and talk a new bow can get a guy "banned" from the site I was told.  My kids and wife have my camera (trip to DC) and they left me my son's POS camera.  Has a mind of it's own, lets me take 1 pic then shuts off and won't turn on...pull the batts out sometimes it will keep working sometimes not...anyway, tired of the thing  ;D

So pics will have to wait until Monday I'm afraid...the tips/last 12" of the limbs were super snakey and I managed to correct of if it on this one but when I flipped the tips the snake came back and both tips flair in (fortunately) opposite directions so at least the string alignment is tolerable.  I'd like to try and correct them again but I am fearful that reheating that area will cause me to loose the flipped tips correction which I added last.  Might have to live with it BUT it does bug me.  Oh, the handle is stiff, bulbous style.

I shoot with a homemade finger tab...it might not be doing it's job.
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 18, 2011, 02:25:20 pm
Short bows equal finger pinch Lee. Try lowering your draw elbow more and see if it lets up some.
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 18, 2011, 02:29:15 pm
OK, figured that was the answer PD...I'll try dropping the elbow a bit, my pointer finger was the worst so I can see where lowering the elbow would alleviate some of that, thanks!
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 18, 2011, 04:11:40 pm
Back in the early seventies when it seemed everyone wanted shorter and shorter bows
I learned to shoot with a one finger draw just to see how short we could get !
 (about 34" lenght @28" draw)
that seems to be about the time some one came up with the mechanical release, since most could not draw much weight with one finger .
Then they decided that cams would allow them to go even shorter and archery took a differant direction that I did not like !!
Anyway I'm rambling, so the bottom line is you can draw with less mass on the string if you want to.
Since then a 68" stick with a string has been all I want, no frills or gadgets 
Most of the time I don't use even a mark for hand placement or arrow placement !
Just me and my stick with a string on it !!
"Keep it simple keep it fun"
Guy
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: johnston on June 18, 2011, 04:58:41 pm
Your son needs, no deserves, a new camera, Dad ;D ;D

Lane
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 18, 2011, 05:01:50 pm
Guy, I hear ya loud and clear...I was considering joining those "really short bow guys like Ken75 and Rich but maybe not after this 56" bow.  It didn't start out life as a 56" bow but I salvaged her and now I have a slight idea about going any shorter and whether it's for me or not.  I'll just say that I spent this morning laying out a 68" bow in Osage for my next one.   ::)
Title: Re: Finger pinch?
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 18, 2011, 05:03:59 pm
Your son needs, no deserves, a new camera, Dad ;D ;D

Lane

No kidding!  He just got this one too...had issues and brought it back and the guy said he "fixed" it but obviously not...we'll be headed back there on Tuesday to get a replacement.  It's a Polaroid so we figured it was a decent one...maybe it's just this one unit. 
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 20, 2011, 06:45:58 pm
Added new pics on the 1st post...thanks~
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: Elktracker on June 20, 2011, 07:31:16 pm
Thats a nice looking bow! Man if its pinching you real bad ill take it off your hands ;D tiller looks nice too
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: half eye on June 20, 2011, 07:41:40 pm
Hey Lee,
      You are drawing serious hunting weight at twice the draw length, so I wouldn't believe that some finger pinch is that out of line. It aint comfortable mind ya, but hell man that short bow is workin man!!!! Real nice bow by the way.....
rich
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 20, 2011, 07:45:01 pm
Thanks Elktracker!

Hey Rich, nice compliments...thanks.  I hadn't thought it from the terms of AOL compared to draw length...good point.  Still doesn't get me into your or Ken75's class of shortbows but I'm bearing down on it...finally  >:D

Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: blackhawk on June 20, 2011, 07:48:53 pm
Ooooooo....youve just turned the corner lee. Awesome job. You look like a pro now with that bend. All that hard work is finally paying off and looks like you got a nice bow to me.  ;D
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 20, 2011, 08:03:36 pm
You can just stay right in your own shop!
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 20, 2011, 10:50:58 pm
Thanks Chris!

Hey Pd...where's the love bro???   ::)

Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: johnston on June 21, 2011, 08:01:52 am
Lee like others have noticed it seems you have turned a corner ,man, your bows are starting to rock!
I know it was a lot of work but do believe you have made it. Great accomplishment.

Lane
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 21, 2011, 11:57:28 am
Thank you very much Lane...I agree, took a while, longer than I wanted and expected but now when I look at the the pile of wood in the "corner of shame" in the shop it doesn't feel quite so bad  ;D
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: dwardo on June 21, 2011, 07:17:01 pm
Whole lot of timber abuse going on there. Great looking bow and not one bit of it is exempt from doing its fair share of bending...
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: ken75 on June 22, 2011, 12:47:24 am
Lee nothing wrong with your skill level ive seen some fine bows by you here lately. and that bow has the one thing i like to see in a full draw and not the three things i dont like to see. your making them limbs WORK !!! . and there are no toes , cracks or nether regions showing in the full draw
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: rps3 on June 22, 2011, 10:23:09 am
That is a fine looking bow. You definetly got the most from that piece of wood.
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: ohma2 on June 22, 2011, 11:37:09 am
good lookin bow there Lee. hope it lives a long life.
Title: Re: Finger pinch? (Updated: with new bow pics)
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 22, 2011, 06:05:12 pm
Thanks again guys!  I figured I HAD to get the limbs working (what they are for, right?  >:D) plus this bow was pretty narrow...1" at the fades tapering to 3/8" at the tips.