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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Dan Perry on June 15, 2007, 01:28:03 pm

Title: Horn for nocks
Post by: Dan Perry on June 15, 2007, 01:28:03 pm
Hi folks,

I am looking for an afordable source of horn for nocks in the U.S.

Anyone have info?

Dan
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: duffontap on June 15, 2007, 02:02:00 pm
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,.......ha, ha, ha...ha.  ;D

Sorry about that little outburst.  I haven't found any 'affordable' horn and I've spent so many hours looking and writing suppliers.   :P  You can get decent 'longhorns' on ebay for about $20 per set.  Figure on paying $15 for shipping.  So for $35 you get enough horn for 2-4 horn tips (depending on the size of the horn and quality) and enough horn scrap for 2,000 tip overlays and arrow plates.  Buffalo horn costs less but isn't as strong and you only get one horn nock from each horn--regardless of size.  I use it sometimes because of the pure, black color but you end up paying more in the end. 

Raptor Archery sells pre-drilled horn nock sets if you're willing to deal with a forced 1/2" bow tip and 'assorted colors.'  They aren't that cheap either.

I hope that helps Dan.

          J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: Pat B on June 15, 2007, 02:51:30 pm
Contact Justin Snyder and see what he has. Dan, Justin lives in SW Utah.   Pat
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: John K on June 15, 2007, 03:36:12 pm
WOW  :o I  new i should of been saving beef horns when i worked at the butcher shop :'(

I might have to take a ride up there and see if they will save them for me ;)
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: sagitarius boemoru on June 15, 2007, 04:59:15 pm
This is not only problem in States. Cattle is kept with horn cut short from young age, so there is not much horn on it. Black buff is availble easy, but it looks like black plastic when polished.
Best thing really is to find a butcher.

J.
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: John K on June 15, 2007, 05:12:43 pm
When you guys talk about using horn, do you uae just the tip or the whole horn and just cut pieces from it  ???

Also how big do they need to be, I could probably get a buch 8-10 inches  :o
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: Justin Snyder on June 15, 2007, 05:19:23 pm
Dan, I have some bison horn. They are rough, but you are going to shape and sand them anyway.  Send me a PM if you are interested.  Justin
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: sagitarius boemoru on June 15, 2007, 05:41:36 pm
Former butcher - with cattle you can use only tip which is solid. With black buff there is much more solid stuff on the horn, which I cut in pieces and use as if it was tips...

Jaro
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: Justin Snyder on June 15, 2007, 07:08:46 pm
Like Jaro said, the true buffalo have more solid horn.  American bison are not true buffalo. There horn is like cattle, the tip is all that can be used for tips. There is a lot of thick horn that can be used for tip overlays or arrow nocks. Justin
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: cowboy on June 15, 2007, 08:15:07 pm
I gather them up where I hunt. Old rancher de-horns every year or two, grabbed about twenty sets last time - will keep my eyes and ears open for the next batch. Maybe offer them up for trade or something.
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: Dan Perry on June 18, 2007, 02:26:52 am
Thank you all for the input.

Dan
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: duffontap on June 19, 2007, 03:09:52 pm
Justin,

I bought a box of 18" Buffalo horns on Ebay and they were as hollow as can be.  What do I look for to find a more solid horn?

           J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: Justin Snyder on June 19, 2007, 05:27:34 pm
Ill trade you for some with good tips on them.   ;D Justin
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: justice66 on July 03, 2007, 06:02:42 pm
Rudderbows sells a great set of waterbuffalo nocks at 27.00 a set ,I had to replace one on my longbow,predrilled polished very pleasing to look at and they are very nice people to talk with as well,I believe they are in washington, Terry J Ceres Calif
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: toxophileken on July 21, 2007, 08:27:23 pm
There is a fellow in the Phillipines that is trying to start selling premade horn nocks as well as horn for asiatic composite bows and self made bow nocks, etc.

I got two pair of his premade horn nocks for $10 a pair.  They are pretty good, but I think he has some fine tuning to do before they will be generally acceptable.  I hope Jaro or someone will work with him to refine his design.  His workmanship is good, but the string grooves aren't quite right in my opinion.  Easy enough to redo oneself.  If I were to order more, I would have him drill the taper and rough out the shape, but leave the rest for me to fine tune (no final shaping or string grooves).

He also has mother of pearl, ebony, and snakeskins. 

His name is Peter Cua.  Here is his email address:

kusangloob(at)yahoo(dot)com  [replace "at" with @ and "dot" with .]

Ken
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: Badger on July 22, 2007, 03:18:36 am
I used to buy raw horn for horn bows plus horn tips from Peter. Dependable guy. Steve
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: mullet on July 22, 2007, 09:35:46 pm
    I bought a set of those horn nocks from Peter and horn arrow nocks too.They are great looking.
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: kiwijim on July 23, 2007, 05:16:44 pm
I get mine from a small time pet food manufacturer; along with sinews and the odd hide.  All I pay is a packet to chocolate biscuits to keep his receptionist happy.
I suggest that you find a butcher or some other animal processor

James

Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: mullet on July 23, 2007, 06:38:27 pm
   Jim,When you say chocolate biscuits those are like cookies right?
Title: Re: Horn for nocks
Post by: Rod on September 26, 2007, 10:22:22 am
Cow horn is what you want for a warbow. It also has the advantage of coming in variegated colours and doesn't look like plastic. A 12" horn will have quite a good solid end.
Rod.