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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: Dag on March 30, 2011, 11:44:13 pm
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Has there ever been any talk or considerartion of an international warbow meet? Is it conceivable to consider a meet in the future, or would it be to complicated? I can imagine a 3 or 4 day event with seminars, classes, competition and recreational shoots, and general archery fellowship. It seems like it could something fun and enjoyed by all should it come to fruition.
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Sounds good I would go if it was central, I think your problem is that its so political you will only get half the people attend.
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Both great points Ian. Centrality would help accommodate folks traveling long distances, and now that you mention it I can see the politics of it becoming an issue. In a perfect world folks could put that kind of stuff to the side and enjoy a few days with like minded people from around the world participating in an activity we all love. Naturally, the first meet, should it happen would have its hiccups, but being the goodly folks we archers are could put on a successful event if we wanted to.
Thanks again for the input Ian. Anyone else?
-Dag
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depending on when and where i would be interested, i would be nice to meet some of these great people here ;D
noel
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I think a warbow olympics would be nice. Not include warbows in the olympics, but have a worldwide annual warbow competition/festival thing would be very nice. I don't know. Just brain storming. It would be a good place to buy/sell, or even just look over medival style archery tackle from all over the world?
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That's a very interesting idea there toomanyknots! I love the Olympics idea :) Vendors would be a definite must have. Good storm, haha.
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Batsford comes pretty close, folks from all over Europe attend. 28th/29th/30th May, held this year at Sevenhampton near Swindon, UK.
See http://www.etas-archery.com/
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I love the idea!
When and where is another question.. Batsford is a great idea, but that is allready a great event. This one should maybe be an event of it's own..? -And is it a good idea to change location every year, to include more people..? I know I would try to come no matter where such an event is held, but it's a lot easier if it were held in a neighbouring country than if I had to cross the atlantic or go even further to attend. I guess more people than me have family and family finances.. By changing location from one year to the next we are able to incluce more people.
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Batsford looks like a wonderful time. Makes me wish I lived in Europe! I like the idea of this as its own event. Nidrinr, that is a fantastic idea of having it change locations every year! I myself live on the American west coast and I would travel as far as the American east coast...for now. The current economic situation inhibits me from going any farther and Im sure many others are feeling the same pinch. My ultimate dream would be to travel to Europe and loose arrows with the goodly folk there. So, that idea of changing locations is very appealling. I'm glad you guys are expressing interest ;D I was afraid someone would have brought this up in the past only to be shot down. So, this is promising! Keep slinging out those ideas and thoughts!
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i also like the idea of it changing locations, im on the east coast and because of my age i cant travel far
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Would it be wise to plan this sort of event every other year, or every two years? This may help in the sense that folks may not be able to afford going to Batsford AND an International meet every year. Batsford and other events can remain yearly and not lose attendees because of travel expenses to another event. Make sense?
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Would it be wise to plan this sort of event every other year, or every two years? This may help in the sense that folks may not be able to afford going to Batsford AND an International meet every year. Batsford and other events can remain yearly and not lose attendees because of travel expenses to another event. Make sense?
as much as i hate waiting i have to agree :-\, if this were to happen, where do you think it would be ???
thanks
noel
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Indeed, how wonderful would an annual international meet be?! Alas, it would be very difficult for many folks to attend such an event every year. As for where the first meet would be, I envision something on the American east coast or the UK. Why? I say the American east coast because of an earlier comment, centrality. People from all over the US could easily travel within the US, the American east would be the closet American region for European attendees. Why the UK? The UK has such a strong foundation within the warbow community that I feel many folks regard it as the main hub of warbow activity, if you will. Not to mention the UK historic ties to the warbow :P Sorry for my run on sentences, this just gets me excited even thinking about it ;D These are just the visions I have in my own head. I am in no way, shape or form promising an event in either location. So, tell me what you think about that, and please anyone add input on location location location!
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if on the east coast, i say go for somewhere in new england, preferably rhode island( i might be biased a little though) it would be so nice to finally meet some of the other people on here and to see what a tru boyer can do, as when i look in the miror, i only see a small sliver of a boyer ;D
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My girlfriend has some interesting obsession with visiting Rhode Island for some reason, you definitely won her vote! :D
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My girlfriend has some interesting obsession with visiting Rhode Island for some reason, you definitely won her vote! :D
it is worth the visit, its amazing in my opinion, great food( again biased) ;D, btw where are you from, this would be a great experience in my opinion
noel
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I would love to go no matter where such an event is held. If the time and place is known good time in advance, it's easier to save up money. If anything this year, it has to be close both because of family plans and economy. Sweeden, Denmark or maybe Germany would have been possible. (And Norway of course :) )Maybe England if the time would be after August.. I guess more people than me have similar considerations based from their location.
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One thing I would say. If putting on a warbow event do not under estimate the amount of space required. Batsford has used a really big field and surrounding land in the past and in the flight shoot arrows were shot out of it. A roving wrabow shoot is good and needs even more space. So you'll need an archery friendly farmer who doesn't mind a whole load of people trampling over his farm which must be largely grass with some interesting terrain and trees to shoot over, plus a really really big open field!
Steve Stratton who has laid on the ETAS Batsford shoot could no doubt give some good advice.
Mark in England
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One thing I would say. If putting on a warbow event do not under estimate the amount of space required. Batsford has used a really big field and surrounding land in the past and in the flight shoot arrows were shot out of it. A roving wrabow shoot is good and needs even more space. So you'll need an archery friendly farmer who doesn't mind a whole load of people trampling over his farm which must be largely grass with some interesting terrain and trees to shoot over, plus a really really big open field!
Steve Stratton who has laid on the ETAS Batsford shoot could no doubt give some good advice.
Mark in England
if we do it rhode island, there are many farms that are not reall used just occasionaly for graising, and one that im thinking of 5 minutes from my house could have it where if you over shoot, it goes into the bay, can anyone say extreme fishing ;D, not sure if it would be allowed there.
noel
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lets try to make a list of where everyone is, and try to find something close to a central point, just an idea, but what about doing a warbow trade within the people coming ;D
noel
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Seeing as how many of the members here are from Europe, the location would most likely be somewhere in the north Atlantic. ;D All kidding aside I would love to have another meet I could go to if it weren't too much trouble. I would even be interested in going over seas for it but I don't think I'd be bringing anything but myself. That would be fine with me though if you guys had some bows I could shoot. May need to work up my strength a bit.
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Excellent point Mark. Everywhere I go, every single day, I look at every field as a potential shooting grounds :) What is a safe distance for a suitable field? 500-600 yards? I noticed that the longest flight record on the EWBS website was 438 yards. I would love to talk to Steve Stratton, I constantly watch the EWBS shoots and ETAS shoots on youtube to get a feel for how things are run. It would be nice to hear what Steve's thoughts are on this and get some pointers.
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If nothing else, would an American warbow meet be more doable? That way it would sorta serve as a practice round for a larger international meet. Just a thought, I certainly don't want to lose sight of the international meet idea, but maybe starting smaller here in the states would be a better start.
Oh, Fishfinder I live in Washington state, sorry you've had to ask me several times man! :P
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dag, i think the trial run in the us is a great idea, how about haveing it in the north east region ;D, all i know is i want to be able to meet some of you and shoot my bow ;D
noel
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Another thing to consider is transporting bows by air. Not an issue if travelling overland but can be a real pain with some airlines who place limits on length and impose high costs. Not sure what limits exist within the US but I know I couldn't take some of my longer bows to the paleo planet meet in Bulgaria via British Airways.
Mark in England
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Good call Mark. When I travelled within the U.S. last summer (from Alaska to Washington state) I had to pay around $35 to put my warbow on the plane. It is probably a safe guess that traveling internationally AND overseas with bows is more expensive.
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So I've been thinking a lot about this lately, and was wondering, would there any interest in an American Warbow Society? Or perhap New World Warbow Society, in keeping with historical terminology. I know there is a relatively new Dutch Warbow Society and they seem like a pretty vibrant bunch. Would folks here in the states support such a society and keep it lively? Perhaps regional warbow societies? Like mentioned in the beginning of this topic, centrality of events is an issue. Let me know what you think!
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If your a member of the EWBS then 'shoot' the sectary an email and he will be able to propose it at the AGM, there are a few groups affiliated to the EWBS around the world.
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i would be interested in a new world warbow society ;D, especially if we could get together periodically and have shoots
noel
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Unfortunately I am not a member Ian. Is there still a way that I can contact them?
Thanks for the enthusiasm Fish! Haha
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I will get the direct email of someone that knows about these things for you, but there are members abroad that have formed groups under the EWBS and if the group is large enough the forum can be made to accommodate them. The dutch do have there own section of the forum for their events and stuff.
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Wonderful! Thank you very much for your help Ian!
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About warbows on planes, using SAS I paid a nice price for a tube of bows and another with arrows taped to it flying Oslo-Heathrow-Oslo. Even though it's in and out of the EU. Sports equipment is a category not charged too high, and as they were unable to find "warbows" as a description of goods they put it in the same as skiing equipment. I don't remember what I paid for it, but I would have remembered if it was an unfair price to it.
About EWBS, we've just started competing in the same classes as the ones used by EWBS up here, and we'll make a list of the national records for each category.
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About warbows on planes, using SAS I paid a nice price for a tube of bows and another with arrows taped to it flying Oslo-Heathrow-Oslo. Even though it's in and out of the EU. Sports equipment is a category not charged too high, and as they were unable to find "warbows" as a description of goods they put it in the same as skiing equipment. I don't remember what I paid for it, but I would have remembered if it was an unfair price to it.
About EWBS, we've just started competing in the same classes as the ones used by EWBS up here, and we'll make a list of the national records for each category.
nidrinr,
You say they could not find warbow as a category, did you try "Archery Equipment" I ask because I believe that was the category of sports equipment used When my brother and his mates took their bows from Here in Australia to New Zealand, don't believe they were charged anything same as most golfers are not charged for their golf bags. Still that was a few years ago and things may have changed.
Craig
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From Norway you are charged no matter what sports equipment it is, but it's a fair price from some flight companies while others rob you. Bringing ski equipment is quite cheap here, as it is a very common thing to bring for Norwegians.
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nidrinr
Bringing ski equipment is quite cheap here, as it is a very common thing to bring for Norwegians.
Of course it would be, how silly of me, should have thought of that before posting.
Craig.