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Title: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 08, 2011, 02:24:22 am
New over here in these parts, usually hangout over at trad gang so a big HOWDY!

 Anyway, I started on a yew stave awhile back and had it roughed out and scraped the back down to ring or two.(tough business right there LOL) Got it floor tillered today andn heated some reflex in and got it bending to about 18" braced at about 4.

 Looks good so far. I'll post some pics in a few days and we'll get it shooting. I got so wrapped up in it today I think I might have her done in a few weeks. We'll see how that goes ;D.

 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Pat B on March 08, 2011, 02:52:40 am
Welcome to PA Kris. You'll like hanging here some too.  ;)     Looking forward to seeing this new yew recurve.
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Knocker on March 08, 2011, 02:54:21 am
Welcome!  Looking forward to the photos...

Keith
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Elktracker on March 08, 2011, 03:07:29 am
Welcome glad to have you here and hope you can get in on the next bow trade. Look forward to seeing your yew ;D
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Pappy on March 08, 2011, 07:33:52 am
Welcome,looking forward to seeing some of your work. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Josh on March 08, 2011, 12:09:25 pm
Welcome to PA!  Cant wait to see that yew recurve.   :)
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Keenan on March 08, 2011, 12:47:16 pm
Welcome Sticks, Nice chatting with you yesterday. I'm glad you found your way to Pa. It's a great site with allot of top notch bowyers that are always very willing to help out. Don't be shy about asking if you need help on anything. Looking forward to that yew bow! ;)
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 08, 2011, 01:55:45 pm
I flipped the tips today. I'm gonna round me up some buff horn to do tip overlays and under lays on the curves. Gonna back her with choke cherry bark. I'll post some pics in a few days I have to somewhere that I can get a good internet connection on my laptop. Out here in the stick all I got is dial up and it sucks. Gonna be a beauty for sure.

 It took some set already and I lost my reflex but I kinda expected that and planned to put it back in before final tiller and get a good heat treat on the belly. This bow has got me fired up and I am excited to get it done.

 Glad to be here Pat. Keenan, it's always good talking to a brother in Christ.

 God Speed! Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Buckeye Guy on March 08, 2011, 04:25:33 pm
Welcome to PA !!
Looking forward to see what your doing !
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Sidewinder on March 08, 2011, 07:58:33 pm
Welcome Sticks. Look forward to seeing your work.   Danny
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 08, 2011, 08:41:14 pm
got the the tips flipped today and ordered some blesbok horn for the tips and underlays.

 pics coming I promise.

 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: NTD on March 08, 2011, 09:11:15 pm
Pics Pics Pics ;D
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Keenan on March 09, 2011, 03:25:48 am
 Chris, I got you figured out,,,,,,you start right out with some real good mouth watering teases to get us hooked,,,,,,,,,,,,you'll fit right in with this group ;D
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 09, 2011, 04:03:07 am
Well I have done all I can until my horn gets here so I guess I'll stop long enough to get some pics up tomorrow.

 mouthwatering is right Keenan. I can feel my back muscles and release fingers twitching. I do nee to remember PATIENCE as I get ready to sneak up on perfect tiller. Man I hope I get to excited.LOL

 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2011, 12:45:12 pm
Keenan, you should know after talking to Kris he ain't shy.  ;D
  Looking forward to seeing this new bow, Kris.
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: ErictheViking on March 09, 2011, 03:07:57 pm
Pics Pics Pics ;D
I totally agree with Nate. proper bow etiquette says one musn't place the word"yew" in a title without said pics.   lol.  just giving some grief. look forward to the pictures. Eric
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 09, 2011, 05:43:09 pm
I know what you mean Eric, LOL. I'm just drawing in the crowd with curiosity first.

 I'll get pics up this evening. I knew when I started this thread I was gonna get grief without pics but I just could resist. I did get them in my computer last night but have to town for a better internet signal. I live out in the sticks and all we got is dial up and it takes a week to upload a pic LOL seriously.

 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 10, 2011, 01:53:51 am
Well hers some long awaited pics
The yew stave is on the right
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/tradebow3-1.jpg)

Heres one on the caul
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/03072011076.jpg)

Heres one after flipping the tips I thought I had some pics of flipping the tips but I don't
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/03082011085.jpg)

 Heres one on the tree before flipping the tips
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/03072011082.jpg)

 Heres one on the tree after flipping the tips
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/03082011083.jpg)

 I'm at stand still until my horn get here tomorrow or friday.

 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Pat B on March 10, 2011, 01:59:09 am
Can you estimate the draw weight now?   How much will the horn add? 
  Coming along nicely, Kris.  Don't bend it too much until you get both limbs bending evenly and together.
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: ErictheViking on March 10, 2011, 02:17:33 am
there you go! pics.  coming along nicely. no adviceto give(Pat's way smarter than I) listen to him.
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 10, 2011, 02:24:06 am
Pat right now I would say she's about 20# over target. I'm shooting for 55# at 28" I really have no idea how much the horn will add. I got the limbs moving evenly my picture taking is a little crooked.  I stopped work on it cause I notice the tips where starting to move a little and I want to get the horn on the belly of the tips so just guessing by how much the tips where moving I think it will add maybe 5 to 8 lbs.

 How much weight can expect to gain with choke cherry bark on the back. I was gonna ask you that the other day when  we talked but forgot. Hopefully I will have this at the classic. Really looking forward to that.
 Yeah Eric pat knows his stuff. I bought this stave about a year ago and Pat's bow building is what inspired me to build this Static curve, Matter of fact the Cherry bark came from Pat
 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Pat B on March 10, 2011, 02:31:57 am
I'm guessing a couple of pounds. I never measured. Keenan might have a better idea.  Are you using the horn on the working belly of underlays for the curves? I think you told me but the snot is blocking my brain!  :D
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 10, 2011, 02:39:16 am
Pat now That I look at my crooked pic your right. The right limb looks a little stiff over all. The horn is going on the belly of the curve to stiffen it. The curves started to move on me a little so I stopped scraping. it needed to rehydrate some anyway.

 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Pappy on March 10, 2011, 09:35:10 am
Looking good,a little work on the right lime and you should be good. Are you putting horn strips
under the belly ? or horn nocks ?
   Pappy
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 10, 2011, 04:36:43 pm
Pappy I'm doing horn tip overlays and about 6.5" of horn underlays to stiffen up the tips so they don't move any. Matter of fact while in the middle of posting this the mail lady showed up. Be right back.


 WOOO HOOOO! my horn is here. Back to work on it. Got some srious work to do on this horn to get it ready. This horn I got is awsome I will be buying from that guy again. he's on e-bay and has great prices on horns of all kind. I'll get some pics of the hornin up in a few days.

 Kris
Title: Re: Static curve Yew
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 13, 2011, 05:56:47 pm
Got some horn put on the belly of the curves so after it dries back to the tillering tree! I'm gonna go for around 55# at 28". Left my horn natural and thinned it from the back side to give a little more eye appeal.

 I know I need to get some more pics, LOL

 Stiks
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 15, 2011, 01:18:52 pm
Had her pulling about 2" from final tiller and was right on for target weight. I was exercising her out to that last bit of draw and POW! She blew about 9" from the tip. Looked like the belly folded and she just snapped. Best I can figure is she got brittle from heating. I had to heat her about 4 times to get some twist out and reflex it.

 Oh well, on to the next one  ;D
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: ErictheViking on March 15, 2011, 01:26:07 pm
sorry to hear that Kris, hope you can salvage the horn at least.  I'll let Jawge give his patented advise on bow breaks.  Eric.
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: Elktracker on March 15, 2011, 02:04:01 pm
Man that sucks! she looked like she was going to be beautiful. Cant beat em all ;)
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: Pat B on March 15, 2011, 02:26:50 pm
Kris, leave your tips thick and wide and your handle full width and deep until you get her to first stringing at least. Also, I try to save all the prettying up until I've shot the bow a few times. No need to do the extra work if she ain't gonna make it.  ;)
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 15, 2011, 04:16:44 pm
I hear ya Pat. Only reason I put the underlays on was to stiffen up the tips that where bending. I do what you do and wait for all the pretty stuff as well I just didn't have much choice here on the underlays at the tips.

 I was able to salvage the horn but ended up with 8 stitches in my left index finger from a draw knife. Got lucky and barely missed the tendon. Just a little battle wound LOL. I figured 60" with flipped tips would be plenty for 28" draw. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: Pat B on March 15, 2011, 04:45:38 pm
60" should be fine. Flipped tips adds more strain though. It should be OK if your tillering is.  ;D
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: juniper junkie on March 16, 2011, 02:32:28 am
personally, for my draw of 28" I like a 64" bow. although yew is elastic somewhat, it doesnt seem to like extreme bending, likes more of a gradual arc. osage will tolerate extreme bends. I have had too many yew bows blow making them short for a long draw. the sapwood is real elastic, but the heartwood can be brittle. just my experience. sorry about your bow. I had a static recurve take down that I was really liking and it blew on me.
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: aznboi3644 on March 16, 2011, 02:36:23 am
The very last picture...the the right limb the one that blew?
Title: Re: Static curve Yew (she didn't make it)
Post by: Stiks-N-Strings on March 16, 2011, 11:46:29 am
Yep, Right limb blew on me.

 Juniper, It looked like the belly wood is what gave first.  I think my next static yew will be at least 62 to 64.