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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: John K on February 23, 2011, 09:15:10 pm

Title: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 23, 2011, 09:15:10 pm: Figured i better start gettin ready for the bow swap, so started to get some Balck Walnut going :)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11001.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11002.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11003.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11004.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11005.jpg)

More to come :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 23, 2011, 09:21:58 pm: (http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11006.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11007.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11008.jpg)

Now the fun part :D

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11010.jpg)

More to come later, i'm done for the night :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 09:34:20 pm: what is that ax type thing sticking out of the wood in the 2nd pic, looks useful
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: jthompson1995 on February 23, 2011, 09:47:09 pm: That's a splitting froe.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: osage outlaw on February 23, 2011, 09:48:45 pm: Wow, that looks like it split very easy and clean.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 23, 2011, 09:56:59 pm: Yep it's a froe, great tool to have around. Yes Osage Outlaw, it slpit real nice :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 10:06:24 pm: were can you get one, i haven't seen them in stores
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: bareshaft12 on February 23, 2011, 10:08:31 pm: I signed up for that swap,where do you sign up for what person you are making it for? Or how does it work?
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: osage outlaw on February 23, 2011, 10:09:43 pm: Quote from: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 10:06:24 pm
were can you get one, i haven't seen them in stores

My guess would be an antique store.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 10:10:38 pm: Quote from: bareshaft12 on February 23, 2011, 10:08:31 pm
I signed up for that swap,where do you sign up for what person you are making it for? Or how does it work?
after the 28th, when the deadline ends, you will be asigned a person, just make sure you gave all your info
i cant wait for this ;D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 10:11:35 pm: Quote from: osage outlaw on February 23, 2011, 10:09:43 pm
Quote from: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 10:06:24 pm
were can you get one, i haven't seen them in stores

My guess would be an antique store.
oh, ok, im going to star looking ;D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 23, 2011, 10:14:12 pm: fish, the one i'm using is made from a truck leaf spring, that my Dad made.

bareshaft, better go back and read the rules :D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: bareshaft12 on February 23, 2011, 10:14:41 pm: Thanks alot
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 10:16:48 pm: Quote from: bareshaft12 on February 23, 2011, 10:14:41 pm
Thanks alot
no problem, i may not know allot, but if i can help i will O:)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: bryan irwin on February 23, 2011, 11:15:03 pm: nice wood you can get them at the woodcraft store they have crosscut saws ads froes wood chisels anything to do with wood got some nice knife blanks too.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: fishfinder401 on February 23, 2011, 11:53:44 pm: Quote from: bryan irwin on February 23, 2011, 11:15:03 pm
nice wood you can get them at the woodcraft store they have crosscut saws ads froes wood chisels anything to do with wood got some nice knife blanks too.
nice to know ;D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Keenan on February 24, 2011, 12:47:54 am: Ya hoooo ;D ;D Getting excited, Glad to see you starting your bow and sharing the progress. ;D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: eflanders on February 24, 2011, 02:47:52 pm: From here that looks like a great stave. Walnut can be a great wood to do things with!
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 24, 2011, 02:51:33 pm: Quote from: eflanders on February 24, 2011, 02:47:52 pm
From here that looks like a great stave. Walnut can be a great wood to do things with!

Hi Neighbor, Yes it is a nice one, Walnut is a great wood to work, cuts nice with the drawknife :)

Hope to get some more work done on it this weekend !
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: HatchA on February 24, 2011, 03:44:37 pm: Looking very good so far!! I love records of the work needed/done like this. Thanks for taking the time to share it all.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: DEllis on February 24, 2011, 03:51:07 pm: Beautifull peice of wood! Looks like you could have split that stave again and got 2 out of it.........maybe I'm not seeing it right though.
Darcy :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 24, 2011, 04:13:00 pm: Quote from: DEllis on February 24, 2011, 03:51:07 pm
Beautifull peice of wood! Looks like you could have split that stave again and got 2 out of it.........maybe I'm not seeing it right though.
Darcy :)

Didn't want to push my luck and end up with nothing :-\
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 27, 2011, 12:20:37 pm: Well got some shop time yesterday, it was taking awhile witht he drawknife, so i thought i would try and take a split off the belly...Not a good idea !
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11006-1.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11005-1.jpg)

Well into the corner with that piece and on to the next, this one ended up with a little twist at the tips, but i think most will tiller out.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11007-1.jpg)

Keep working with the drawknife.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11012.jpg)

Rough profile 68" ttt alittle over 2" from handle to 8" from the tips, then tapper to 1" for now.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11010-1.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11015.jpg)

More to come !
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 27, 2011, 12:25:23 pm: It sure is some pretty wood
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11019.jpg)

The back, all natural color, going to be some good camo !

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11017.jpg)

Gettin there, now into the house for a couple weeks.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/blackwalnut2-23-11018.jpg)

Thanks for looking, more to come as i progress :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: sweeney3 on February 27, 2011, 12:32:40 pm: Looks like that froe made a nice clean split. Could probably make one with some 1.5" or 2" iron pipe welded to a piece or 5/16" or 3/8" flat if you don't have a truck leaf spring lying around. I may have to make one of those. Looks really handy.

That's some pretty wood you got going. Will be interested to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 27, 2011, 03:51:52 pm: Thanks sweeny, the Froe is a nice tool to have in the arsenal :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: DEllis on February 27, 2011, 03:57:58 pm: Quote from: John K on February 24, 2011, 04:13:00 pm
Quote from: DEllis on February 24, 2011, 03:51:07 pm
Beautifull peice of wood! Looks like you could have split that stave again and got 2 out of it.........maybe I'm not seeing it right though.
Darcy :)

Didn't want to push my luck and end up with nothing :-\
I don't blame you ;D Bandsaws are handy for stuff like that with less chance of going off course. It is hard for me to get good bow wood in the frozen north so I like to make the most of what I do get. It has cost me a time or two as well :-\ Sorry to see you oops-ed on the first one. The second try is looking great though. :)
Darcy
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 27, 2011, 04:51:23 pm: Thanks Darcy, the first one will still make a bow, just going to need a backing now. I'd like to make an unbacked bow for the trade, just don't like covering up that beautiful wood ::) :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: HatchA on February 27, 2011, 05:08:22 pm: Quote from: John K on February 27, 2011, 04:51:23 pm
Thanks Darcy, the first one will still make a bow, just going to need a backing now. I'd like to make an unbacked bow for the trade, just don't like covering up that beautiful wood ::) :)

I agree with you on that point John! I have a beautiful spliced osage bow from Gary Davis and skins to back it with but the grain is so unusual, I think I'll keep it natural.

I'm watching this build-along with much anticipation :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on February 27, 2011, 05:41:44 pm: Thanks Hatch, hope it all works out :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Elktracker on February 27, 2011, 11:10:20 pm: Looking good so far thanks for takeing the time :) look forward to more

Josh
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 06, 2011, 08:02:31 pm: Got a little more done today, starting to look like a bow.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade006.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade007.jpg)

on to the long string
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade009.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade010.jpg)

Slowly coming along ,time for some more scraping !
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: crooketarrow on March 06, 2011, 08:47:55 pm: I can't remember the name I have my granddads and mauls that go along with them.He said he'd used them for spliting shingles. I 've got two sizes. I use it for OSAGE mainly. WORKS REALLY GOOD WITH MAULS not as much bending over.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 06, 2011, 09:08:42 pm: You work it to and froe :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Sidewinder on March 07, 2011, 02:26:44 am: Go get em John its starting to shape up into a bow. Danny
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Elktracker on March 07, 2011, 03:03:44 pm: Looking good john thanks for shareing, look forward to watching as you go ;D

Josh
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 07, 2011, 03:42:37 pm: Thanks Danny and Josh, hope to get some more work done ths coming weekend :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 23, 2011, 03:21:03 pm: Worked a little more on it today, got it to brace

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade012.jpg)

Strings not tracking to bad

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade013.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade014.jpg)

Not looking to bad, i think some scrapes out of the left fade and 1/3 way out on the limbs needs some work, pulling 50@17(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade017.jpg) Back to the shop :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Elktracker on March 23, 2011, 05:48:27 pm: lookin good
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 23, 2011, 05:52:42 pm: Started shaping the handle

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade021.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade022.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade020.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade019.jpg)

Raised the brace height a litlle
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade024.jpg)

50@22
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade025.jpg)

Right after unstringing
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade027.jpg)

Thats it for today :)

Thanks Josh, it coming along !
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: sailordad on March 23, 2011, 05:55:11 pm: looks good ;)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: DEllis on March 23, 2011, 05:57:51 pm: Looking real nice. That back sure will blend in well......looks woodsy :)
Darcy
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 23, 2011, 06:02:57 pm: Thanks Tim :)

I was thinking the same thing Darcy, that the color that was left after removing the bark ;D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Elktracker on March 23, 2011, 06:06:51 pm: Quote from: DEllis on March 23, 2011, 05:57:51 pm
Looking real nice. That back sure will blend in well......looks woodsy :)
Darcy

I agree I really like the color to that back!
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Keenan on March 23, 2011, 09:17:02 pm: That is looking fantastic. Tiller looking spot on. Turning into a fine looking bow ;)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 23, 2011, 10:24:59 pm: Thanks Keenan, only 5 more inches to go :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 27, 2011, 03:56:15 pm: What do you guys see....60@26

Thanks !

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/6026.jpg)

My guy asked for 40-60# 26-27" draw shoots nice !
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Elktracker on March 27, 2011, 04:00:56 pm: That looks nice john someone will be very happy! look forward to seeing it finished ;D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Acutus on March 27, 2011, 04:49:33 pm: Looking good! I love the natural look of the wood very nice!
The right limb looks stiffer to me than the left. I'm not the expert though but since you asked.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: DEllis on March 27, 2011, 05:07:55 pm: That looks pretty nice from this angle. I am with Elktracker....looking forward to the finished pics ;D
Darcy
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 27, 2011, 05:10:43 pm: Good eye Acutus, that is the bottom limb, but i'm going to take a few more scrapes of it then the left
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: DEllis on March 27, 2011, 05:23:32 pm: Have you shot it yet?
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 27, 2011, 05:32:38 pm: Quote from: DEllis on March 27, 2011, 05:23:32 pm
Have you shot it yet?

Yes i have about 50 arrows through it, shoots real nice !

I put the first coat of Tru-oil on the handle area, and man did the grain and color pop :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: DEllis on March 27, 2011, 05:38:15 pm: Right on! I only asked because you mentioned taking some wood off the lower limb. It looks pretty close now.....I like to leave the lower limb a bit stiffer.
Again nice stuff.......looks like it should be pretty quick :)
Darcy
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Sidewinder on March 27, 2011, 06:33:46 pm: John thats looking great. I would say you are very close to being done on this one. Danny
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: DarkSoul on March 27, 2011, 06:49:16 pm: If you need to lower the drawweight, I'd take wood from both midlimbs :) Most bend occurs is the fade area, with little bend in the midlimbs.
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 27, 2011, 07:18:54 pm: Thanks guys, DarkSoul thats where i'll take some off.

I put the handle wrap on tonight

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade030.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade031.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade032.jpg)

Going to shoot it some more tomorrow, thats enough for today.

Thanks for lookin :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Elktracker on March 27, 2011, 11:21:38 pm: Handle wrap looks good, thats gonna be a nice little backwoods bow ;D and I really like the back
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 28, 2011, 06:32:03 pm: Shot it some more today and put the first coat of Tru-Oil on her.

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade039.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade040.jpg)

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade042.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/black%20walnut%20bow/walnuttrade041.jpg)

Going to be sad to see Her Go ! lol :'( :)
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: Elktracker on March 28, 2011, 06:37:57 pm: Sad for you but your going to make someones day or month or year ;D
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: bubby on March 28, 2011, 07:40:55 pm: 27" draw, crap! guess it's not mine ;D somebody's gonna be happy
Title: Re: Gettin ready
Post by: John K on March 29, 2011, 02:30:40 pm: Thanks Josh, and Bub !