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Title: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 03, 2011, 03:45:53 am
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Soak in warm water untill soft

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cut out shapes you want

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put on a flat surface

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clamp down overnight or until dry

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when dry sharpen with your belt sander,cut groves for attatching to the shaft and go shoot some rabbits !!
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Sparrow on January 03, 2011, 09:35:55 am
 That's pretty clever !  '  Frank
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Scowler on January 08, 2011, 09:51:52 am
Pertty inventive.  I'll have to make a few of those.
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 08, 2011, 09:33:00 pm
They are easy,cheap & fun!!  They work to!!!!!!
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Elktracker on January 08, 2011, 11:42:25 pm
sorry for my inexperiance in this sort of thing but, that will penitrate and kill an animal? lol looks easy to make
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 09, 2011, 07:14:52 am
Absolutely !  My pastor told me how to make these,he hunts rabbits,squirrels and turkeys with them. After they dry very well they are good and hard,you could also paint them with fiber glass rosin to make them harder. I dont know if I would deer hunt with them,,
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: crooketarrow on January 11, 2011, 05:56:49 am
     I read book about indains long time ago. It taked of indains in the SW (don't remember the tribe) doing this and harding and water proffed with somethig used these. Dont remember it saying what they hunted or even the name of the book. I was just a teenager at the time.
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: JackCrafty on January 11, 2011, 01:23:24 pm
I think there may be a reference to the use of rawhide arrowheads in Laubin's book on Native American archery.  I think it was said that a rawhide arrowhead will bend instead of shattering when hitting a rib bone, for example.  The arrow may then be able to keep on going and then hit the animals vitals, I dunno.  In any case, I don't see the advatage to this over a sharpened wood point...  except maybe the "coolness" factor. :)
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 11, 2011, 09:16:03 pm
Your right,My pastor and I are Cherokee,This was taught to him by his grandfather who was taught by his father,grandfather,ect.... Who knows where else it came from,they are easy,very enexpensive and everyboby likes to look at them
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: matte on January 15, 2011, 08:50:24 am
I have read most everything posted on this site related to primitive arrows. I have been making primitive arrows for over fifty years and have heard, seen and done just about everything one may think of concerning  constructing primitive arrows but this is a first. Thanks for posting this as I see it will work. I just wish I had of thought of it long ago! It is rare that I see a post that inserts a new way of making arrows.
Matt
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 16, 2011, 01:41:23 am
This is what they look like tied on.  This one has been shot at my haybale a bunch of times(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa398/wall5834/PICT1210.jpg)
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Pat B on January 17, 2011, 01:23:42 am
I would think in a battle situation a rawhide arrow head would be ideal. Can you imagine being shot with one. It could be deadly depending of where it hit it's target. If you wound your component his comrads have to stop fighting to help him. If you kill him, he's dead!!! A bit of rancid urine or feces would render that rawhide arrowhead very effective at imobileizing it's victim.
  For hunting you want a quick kill. In warfare you want to wound your opponent so his team looses manpower transporting and taking care of the victims.
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: jkyarcher on January 17, 2011, 09:19:52 pm
Wallace

that is cool never would have thought of that

i guess the rawhide is thick have you tried that with other types of animal hide
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Bevan R. on January 17, 2011, 09:28:27 pm
Any idea on the weight? I would think they would be very light and throw the FOC ballance point off?
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: aznboi3644 on January 17, 2011, 10:22:40 pm
Sweet...I just found my new field point/stumping point.  Dont have to worry about losing my trade points to trees.  vise grips are too heavy to go walking with.

Think I'll make a set of small game points with these...Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 18, 2011, 08:35:19 am
Wallace

that is cool never would have thought of that

i guess the rawhide is thick have you tried that with other types of animal hide

This stuff is pretty thick, The pieces in the bag vary in size,  As for other hide, at our local feed seed store they have a barrel full of dried pig ears!  They are pretty thick and very hard. Im going to try those this week and will do another build-along. A little more detailed this time!
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 18, 2011, 08:39:58 am
Any idea on the weight? I would think they would be very light and throw the FOC ballance point off?

I havent checked weight,they are light but at 10 yds they fly straight,all I had was vanes when I made that one Im waiting on my feather order to get here,im sure that will be better.
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Pat B on January 18, 2011, 12:23:02 pm
Cane or hardwood shoot arrows they are point end heavy anyway so they might fly better with them.
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Bevan R. on January 19, 2011, 12:34:26 am
I know it might be more trouble than worth, but what about a wire wrap or brass sleeve to bring the weight up? I like the idea but I would want to shoot something that will fly reasonably well. And to be honest, I do not think I could get within 10 yards of a tree rat to get a shot. :'(
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Rick Wallace on January 19, 2011, 08:28:16 am
ha ha  I thought about glueing on a 38 casing then cutting a slot and tying on,If I ever get caught up on other projects I think ill try it.
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Christian on January 19, 2011, 09:25:08 am
Using a longer and/or heavier foreshaft might do the trick. 
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: Bevan R. on January 19, 2011, 11:23:20 pm
ha ha  I thought about glueing on a 38 casing then cutting a slot and tying on,If I ever get caught up on other projects I think ill try it.
OK, now you got me wondering. Just going to have to do some experimenting. ;D

Using a longer and/or heavier foreshaft might do the trick. 
I had thought of that, and if I used cane I do not think it would be an issue. Unfortunately, it does not grow here (West Neb) and I can not see spending the dollars for shafts to throw at tree rats. That is what they stock fir/ceder/pine at home depot for right? >:D
Title: Re: Raw hide arrow heads
Post by: arthur_the_great on January 26, 2012, 11:29:33 am
cool idea i wil have to try it