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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: dragonman on December 07, 2010, 03:29:51 pm

Title: Welsh Ash Bow.
Post by: dragonman on December 07, 2010, 03:29:51 pm
Hi guys, havent posted a bow for a while, so thought  I'd  show you this one I made a few weeks ago.  Its nothing special , but it shoots pretty well and is very stable in terms of accuracy, more so than my faster boo backed bows. It is white ash, 66" ntn. pulls 52lbs and has 3/4" of set after shooting plenty of arrows,( no heat treatment.) It weighs 22oz, if your interesred. A basic bow ,but a consistent dependable bow - I think. Its suprising what a peice of common ash will do with the right design, it must be about the most prolific tree growing around here... Thanks for looking.... hope you like it
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Post by: ohma on December 07, 2010, 03:35:38 pm
i like it. that front profile is great to look at.nice pic to.
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Post by: petew on December 07, 2010, 04:18:15 pm
Nice looking bow. I like it.
 Can you explain what is a Welsh Bow ?

 Pete
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Post by: NTD on December 07, 2010, 04:24:45 pm
sweet looking bow!
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Post by: Steve Milbocker on December 07, 2010, 04:27:36 pm
Really nice bow.
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Post by: Loki on December 07, 2010, 04:36:14 pm
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Can you explain what is a Welsh Bow ?
Welsh Ash Bow (say that a lot) an Ash tree grew up in Wales then Dragonman made a Bow out of it  ;D.It's a nice looking Bow.
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Post by: dwardo on December 07, 2010, 04:43:25 pm
Thats a fine looking bow.
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Post by: n2huntn on December 07, 2010, 04:50:34 pm
Really like it. Nice looking grain too.
Jeff
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Post by: Del the cat on December 07, 2010, 04:58:31 pm
Nice looking bow, looks like it's 'edge on' grain rather than ring backed, maybe that's why it doesn't follow the string?
I've not built a bow that way, but it's on my increasingly long 'to do' list ;D Would be interesting to compare two bows made from the same log in the two styles.
Del
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Post by: dragonman on December 07, 2010, 05:04:46 pm
Thanks for the compliments guys I appreciate them. Yep Loki , your' Welsh ash bow' definition is  about the same as mine... just putting Wales on the map really ... not a typical 'Welsh bow' which would probably be defined as a welsh lonbow, elb style, sometimes made of yew,oak and elm, in the medi-evil period, my suspicion is, go back a few thousand years and youl find ash bows like this...
Del, its about the same grain orientation as a quarter sawn board, this is definately the strongest way to make a bow...in my opinion
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Post by: cracker on December 07, 2010, 05:07:51 pm
Nice work I'd take it in the woods with me any day.
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Post by: aero86 on December 07, 2010, 05:15:03 pm
nice bow!  caught my eye, cause my family history is from Wales
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Post by: Keenan on December 07, 2010, 05:23:27 pm
Very nice bow, Good job.
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Post by: half eye on December 07, 2010, 06:55:31 pm
Like everybody else has said.......very nice. It even "looks" well mannered.
rich
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Post by: acker on December 07, 2010, 07:14:18 pm
Nice looking bow, looks like it's 'edge on' grain rather than ring backed, maybe that's why it doesn't follow the string?
I've not built a bow that way, but it's on my increasingly long 'to do' list ;D Would be interesting to compare two bows made from the same log in the two styles.
Del

I like that idea !
Might give it a try the next weeks.


Nice bow dragonman  :)
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Post by: Hrothgar on December 07, 2010, 08:03:20 pm
Very nice bow. Like the way ash finishes too.
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Post by: adb on December 07, 2010, 08:30:25 pm
Very nicely done. I have some ash staves curing... I'll have to give that design a go.
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Post by: wvarcher on December 07, 2010, 09:22:43 pm
Great looking bow!   It's great to see pics of bows with so Little string-follow.  It seems a lot of people are making pyramid bows of this type.  I am going to attempt a second one with quarter sawn wood.   How wide is the bow right where the fades start?
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Post by: Pat B on December 07, 2010, 11:45:14 pm
Dragonman, nothing beats simplicity when it comes to form and function. Well done.
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Post by: medicinewheel on December 08, 2010, 03:27:32 am
Great bow!
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Post by: Pappy on December 08, 2010, 05:58:23 am
Good looking bow,Ash make a beautiful bow that's for sure. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Parnell on December 08, 2010, 11:52:02 am
Makes for a good baseball bat, too.  That's a very dependable looking bow.  Bet it'll last a long time.
Nicely done, Dragonman!
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Post by: HatchA on December 08, 2010, 12:27:17 pm
Nice, inspirational bow!  Could you give more info on the whole "quarter-sawn" method?  Does the grain cut diagonally through the bow's length?

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Post by: dragonman on December 08, 2010, 04:32:13 pm
Thanks all, Hatcha... it was actually Half-Eye, that put me onto using quarter sawn grain orienration , The grain should run as close to 90 degrees down the length of the bow as pos. in other words the grain runs down the back and belly rather than down the edge of the bow. This balances out differences in the yearly growth rings.... equalising out weakness in  the growth rings making a more uniform stave.. A weakness in one growth ring will then make very little difference , with the grain the other way , it would make a big difference

Wvarcher, it is 2 inches at the fades, tapering to 1 3/4" with 10" stiff tips
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Post by: HatchA on December 09, 2010, 01:07:33 pm
Nicely explained, thanks man.
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Post by: Lombard on December 09, 2010, 01:13:51 pm
Nice work, I too like that quarter sawn Ash.