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Title: Windows 7
Post by: aznboi3644 on September 21, 2010, 11:32:44 am
Hey I just got this last month.  I love it.  Anyone else using it?

I have an ASUS U81A laptop with plenty of performance to spare. I don't use it for anything else but playing music...online games...and web browsing.  Before I had Windows Vista Home Premium.  It was "OK".  Not that bad.  I have 4G of ram and idling with no programs up on Vista there was 43% of ram being used.  Start up from off to home screen after logging in took 3-4 minutes.

NOW THOUGH!!  Windows 7 is the SHIIIZZZNIIIITTT.  I'm not joking it runs SOOOOOOO much smoother and faster.  I will admit I thought it was a load of crap after the Microsoft released the poop Vista.  But wow they really did their research here.
 
Total start up time from off to home screen after logging in is about 30-40 seconds...no joke.  Ram usage idles at 22%.  No lag.

I would recommend it to all.  Software comes with a program to even burn downloaded movies to play on any dvd player.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 22, 2010, 01:14:16 am
Windows 7 is so much better than Vista, but it is still windows.  ;) Your Vista probably had trojans that were running at startup and using a lot of your ram. My Vista computer would start up in 30 seconds. Seriously, Vista was a big mistake and they admit it. That is why its shelf life was so short. Windows is an awesome OS if your major task is word processing. It isn't very secure and to keep it running at its peek you need a great spy ware remover and expect to do a re install every 6 months. You can't beat the price of windows and I like the fact that it is open source compatible.

FYI I can start my Mac and start Maya 3D modeling software (a very demanding program) in the time it takes to start my Windows 7.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: aznboi3644 on September 22, 2010, 01:38:37 am
I plan on getting a mac after college...or within the year.  I'd like to have two lol.  But there are bills bills bills
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 22, 2010, 09:29:16 am
Yes, all those pesky bills. To make it worse, a Mac is double the price of a PC because only Apple can make them. Honestly, I don't recommend the Mac unless you are into graphic arts or something of that nature. The Mac is a great machine, but for the average person a PC is just as good and the price is so much lower.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: BearG on September 22, 2010, 03:31:06 pm
LOVE WINDOWS 7
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: El Destructo on September 22, 2010, 03:49:41 pm
Justin...why a total reload every 6 months...and how would one go about it without losing stuff every time? I know that   every time iI use my Backup Drive...there always seems to be something it don't back up....last time it was all of my email....and address book.

And what Spyware Program would you recommend?
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 22, 2010, 04:09:18 pm
Justin...why a total reload every 6 months...and how would one go about it without losing stuff every time? I know that   every time iI use my Backup Drive...there always seems to be something it don't back up....last time it was all of my email....and address book.

And what Spyware Program would you recommend?
Mike, it may not need done every 6 months by some, but if you spend a lot of time on the web it will slow down. Notice I said at peek performance. If a little slow down doesn't bother you, then every year is probably good. I don't have a good solution for not backing everything up. I have a couple of 8G flash drives that I save important stuff on. Before I do a system restore from the backup or disk I go through and save the entire documents folder along with photos and favorites.

Microsoft Security Essentials is pretty good program and it is FREE.  ;)
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: youngbowyer33 on September 22, 2010, 06:21:20 pm

Microsoft Security Essentials is pretty good program and it is FREE.  ;)
Is it better than avast?
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 22, 2010, 07:19:30 pm
Avast is a great system. The only major advantage MSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) has over avast is the smaller space required. MSE scans more files than the others and scans faster in quick mode, but is slower for a whole system scan. If you are a gamer or P2P user avast is probably better because it won't slow down the game (because it doesn't scan it). This will leave the back door open so people can get in though. Avast will scan mail while MSE only scans the attachments.  Avast is rated about 53% at detection and prevention while MSE is rated 56%. To give you an idea, McAfee is rated about 47%.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: paganwannbe on September 22, 2010, 07:23:05 pm
listening to your guys talk about your windows computers makes feel like an outcast but 30-40 seconds for windows 7 to start kind of slow if you don't mind me saying so
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 22, 2010, 07:40:29 pm
listening to your guys talk about your windows computers makes feel like an outcast but 30-40 seconds for windows 7 to start kind of slow if you don't mind me saying so
We aren't talking about waiting for the home screen to show, we are talking about full functionality. My computers aren't up and running until they have connected to my wireless networks and printers.

Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: paganwannbe on September 22, 2010, 07:42:42 pm
I know but my Ubuntu's up to that in 15 seconds plugged in and 20 seconds on battery
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 22, 2010, 07:53:57 pm
I know but my Ubuntu's up to that in 15 seconds plugged in and 20 seconds on battery
You Ubuntu is command prompt, not something most people want to deal with. It doesn't need any virus protection though. It is awesome for programing and completely open source, what more could you ask for.

I run parallels with ubuntu on my mac and have it on a flash drive for my windows machine.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: HoBow on September 22, 2010, 08:39:41 pm
I guess it takes me about 2 minutes and I'm PISSED!  To think of the 90 seconds I waste every time I boot up. How do I sleep? ;)
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: paganwannbe on September 22, 2010, 08:40:46 pm
same way I did when I had XP at the keyboard
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: aero86 on September 22, 2010, 10:19:28 pm
under a minute, possibly slow?  that sounds kinda funny.  macs are nice, ive got an old imac as decoration above my computer desk.  they just arent cost effective for some people.  like me. lol.

anyways, i have a little bitty limited run emachines netbook, basically an acer.  was a walmart special.  got it for 220 at walmart.  spent 40 bucks for 2 gigs ram, and i love it.  it had 7 basic, but i upgraded to home premium.  runs it really well, and i love the netbook, even if it is small.  doesnt take it any time to load.   windows really did it right when the created 7. 
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: mullet on September 22, 2010, 10:47:27 pm
 Justin, The computer guy's at the geek store talked the wife into loading Kaspersky. She got Trojans, and and all kinds of Spyware. My notebook has Norton and I never had a problem. We wiped her's clean and switched to Norton and haven't had a problem.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 23, 2010, 02:14:12 pm
Eddie, that is why I say it is still Windows. There just aren't any guarantees. Also why I say use a free service.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: gstoneberg on September 24, 2010, 01:51:03 pm
I know but my Ubuntu's up to that in 15 seconds plugged in and 20 seconds on battery
You Ubuntu is command prompt, not something most people want to deal with. It doesn't need any virus protection though. It is awesome for programing and completely open source, what more could you ask for.

I run parallels with ubuntu on my mac and have it on a flash drive for my windows machine.

I know you're not bashing linux Justin, but Ubuntu is the first unix/linux I've used that isn't command line.  You can run it command line and I sometimes do, but even the install was all GUI and the defaults came up and worked right out of the box, even wireless networking and printing.  It honestly is as easy as windows and certainly faster.   I'm impressed with it and I've installed and run many linux and unix versions since I began using unix in 1983.  Most are command line, as you say, and that has kept me employed for a very long time.  I worked with the original AT&T as long as it existed, it was a fun ride.

I'm also impressed with your MAC's unix OS, easily the best graphics implementation out there.  If they weren't so pricy, I'd have one.

George
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 24, 2010, 02:40:37 pm
George, I actually just bought my first Mac. I am working on my bachelors in visual technologies (graphic arts) and have been using windows machines at home and Macs at school. The fact that Mac is based on Unix is what makes it more secure than Windows.

Ubuntu still requires a lot of command prompt for creating directories and creating files. EMACS and VI still has to be done using command prompt. They are making it a lot more user friendly. PCLinuxOS is supposed to look 50% like Windows, but I haven't tried it to see.

Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: gstoneberg on September 24, 2010, 03:40:44 pm
Good luck on that Mac.  My older brother sure loves the Macs and we used to have a fruit computer vs UNIX debate every time we saw each other.  Mac OS-X stopped that and put us on the same side so to speak.

Actually, it doesn't.  I have yet to create a directory or a file using the command line on my Ubuntu laptop.  It has a graphics display of folders similar to windows explorer and I've used it to create all the folders I've needed.  I could use vi if I wanted, but so far at home I've used openoffice or the graphics text editor.  Like everybody else, at my core I'm lazy.  After working on computers all day, every day, when I get home I just want to relax and browse the NET before heading out to the shop.  If Windows did it better/faster than Ubuntu I'd have that loaded, but Ubuntu is faster, easier and doesn't get viruses.  Incidentally, I haven't used emacs since about 1995, but I sure used to love using it.  Alas, I got tired of having to load it every time I installed unix.  I do use vi heavily when I'm doing web programming, but then I'm over on my web server and, just like my windows PC at work, my Ubuntu PC at home is just the conduit to the server.  I honestly don't do much of that anymore as I'm learning C# and .NET these days.  I haven't tried PCLinuxOS either.

I don't mean to hijack this thread.  I have no experience with Windows7.  Even at work we don't yet have it.  My wife's laptop is getting long in the tooth so I suspect we'll get some experience here soon.  I sure hope it's better than XP, I don't even use the word Vista.

George
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 24, 2010, 05:04:27 pm
If you are going to run windows –and for most people it is the best idea– Windows7 is definitely the way to go.

George, what version are you running. I just looked at the 10.10beta and it looks nothing like what we were using. I don't know what version of ubuntu we were running on our virtual machines in my IT classes. We run about 10 virtual machines but 9 are cloned from the first and it was downloaded from the college server, not an Ubuntu forum. I wonder if they had the GUI partially disabled because we still had to do most of our work from the command line. I hate VI because of its modes. The version I have on my VM at home I tunneled in and cloned from the school. I only use Ubuntu for programming because it never crashes like windows does.
Title: Re: Windows 7
Post by: gstoneberg on September 24, 2010, 06:14:02 pm
I'm running 10.04. I don't do betas anymore.  My desktop looks just like the desktop picture on the website.  Sounds to me like you don't have the same GUI I do.  That's too bad, it really makes it a no-brainer.

But, like you say, Windows is the best choice for most people in the world.  I'm glad Windows7 is an improvement.

George