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Title: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: John Lawson on September 15, 2010, 04:54:19 pm
I have just finished this Persian Horn Bow which has taken me 6 months.  As I understand it a Persian Horn Bow is the same as a Turkish Bow but longer and with string bridges.
The bow is 53” nock to nock along its back and 40lb at 27 inches, the core is maple 0.140” thick and the belly is water buffalo horn, also 0.140” thick with three layers of deer sinew on the back, all glued using hide glue.
The siyahs are also maple and the wood was boiled for 30 minutes and then clamped to a former  They have a V joint fixing them to the core wood which was also formed by boiling.  The back of the bow is covered with thin red leather overlapping onto the belly of the bow.  I did not enjoy sinewing the back of the bow.
One picture shows the 3 piece string, one centre section and two end loops, and the special knot used on the Asian bows.  The string knot should come on the string bridge.
After tillering by heating the horn it was necessary to remove some limb twist again by heating the horn and then twisting in the opposite direction.  The string is central and does not really need the bridges.

The bow shoots well but as I had to guess at the relevant thicknesses it came out l0 lb lighter than I wanted and therefore does not shoot as far as I had hoped but even at this weight it is surprising the power these bows produce.  I hope you like it.


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Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: mullet on September 15, 2010, 04:58:55 pm
 Thats a nice looking bow. You did a really nice job with that one.
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Post by: swamp yeti on September 15, 2010, 05:02:10 pm
That is one nice bow.
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Post by: Thwackaddict on September 15, 2010, 05:07:18 pm
Very nice job!Hows it shoot?
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Post by: Pat B on September 15, 2010, 06:02:12 pm
Very cool bow!
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: John Lawson on September 15, 2010, 06:18:18 pm
The bow shoots very well.  Much smoother than I expected and outshoots by 45 lb English Longbow.  Although I use a 3-finger draw there was no finger pinch as I expected on a short bow.  Haven't been able to get a thumb ring to fit
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Post by: Lombard on September 15, 2010, 07:00:55 pm
Congratulations, on a nice bow.
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Post by: aero86 on September 15, 2010, 07:39:25 pm
ohhh, i love it!
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Post by: adb on September 15, 2010, 08:03:28 pm
WOW! Very nicely done. A 6 month build is a huge commitment on one bow. Your patience is outstanding. I've always been afraid of these bows, just because of such a long time to produce one.
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: ken75 on September 15, 2010, 10:07:30 pm
very nice bow , and as said lots of patients ! i think your not having finger pinch because  the static recurves hold the string angle wide ,i get the same thing with my short statics although i dont have the same time involved as you
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Post by: elk country rp on September 15, 2010, 11:58:20 pm
outstanding!!

i do like it!
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Post by: Josh on September 16, 2010, 01:53:03 am
Wow!  Nice bow!  I love these composite bows so much because of the dedication and commitment and skill level involved in making these is a goal and level I hope to reach one day.  Beautiful color choice too.  Got it bookmarked for September Backed Bow of the Month contest too.  :)
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Post by: Tsalagi on September 18, 2010, 01:24:39 am
Stunning! Awesome work!
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Post by: okiecountryboy on September 18, 2010, 01:25:16 am
ohhh, i love it!

Very nice.
Hey Aero, Why did i know that you would be Drooooolin over this one??!??

Ron
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Post by: wundabred on September 18, 2010, 09:16:30 am
where do you get the horn?
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: John Lawson on September 18, 2010, 03:10:05 pm
I get the water buffalo horn from Peter Cau in the Phillippines.  If you want ordering details etc. please email me.  I'm new to this forum and am not sure if I can give email addresses on this site.
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: aero86 on September 18, 2010, 03:24:46 pm
ohhh, i love it!

Very nice.
Hey Aero, Why did i know that you would be Drooooolin over this one??!??

Ron

haha, lol.  possibly because im the only one that cant seem to have one shooting well.  they either break, or are too light, as in my first attempt.  ive broken 3 of 3 so far. lol

again, nice bow!
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: gstoneberg on September 18, 2010, 03:26:24 pm
Philippines, that's interesting.  My daughter and her family live in Davao City on the Philippine island of Mindanao and water buffalo horn is quite expensive where they are.  I asked her about it and as I recall she said they only rarely kill or remove the horns from buffalo as they're such an important part of farming and hauling there.  She did bring me a set of very small horns turned into a desk pen holder, but her mother would kill me if I cut them up for a bow.  Maybe it's different on other islands or she just doesn't have the right contact there.

George
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: John Lawson on September 18, 2010, 03:45:35 pm
Peter Cau is in Manilla and Yes, it is expensive, delivery is long and you have to keep chasing him.
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Post by: medicinewheel on September 19, 2010, 03:32:11 am
Nice bow you made there!
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Post by: Marc St Louis on September 19, 2010, 09:18:02 am
Very nice bow
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Post by: gstoneberg on September 19, 2010, 03:31:05 pm
Peter Cau is in Manilla and Yes, it is expensive, delivery is long and you have to keep chasing him.

Ah, I just might save up so when we go visit the kids I can bring a horn back.  And sorry, I meant to say before how nice that bow is, beautiful lines.

Thanks, George
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Post by: n2huntn on September 19, 2010, 08:59:47 pm
Nicely done, I'll take a green one. ;D
n2
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: Del the cat on September 20, 2010, 05:05:18 am
Highland Horn in the UK are good for WB horn, just google 'highland horn'.
Del
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Post by: faltenhemd on September 20, 2010, 08:52:41 am
that's a cool bow!

If you want a higher draw weight, just draw further. The limbs' bend is quite mild with your 27" draw.
with your thumb you can easily draw 30" or more. A simple piece of leather around your thumb will offer enough protection until you finish your thumb ring.
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: Pappy on September 20, 2010, 10:37:24 am
Sweet, very nice job on that one. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: JBL on September 30, 2010, 11:22:49 pm
Very nice.  BRAVO!!!!  If you are interested in a thumb ring there are several "How To" threads on ATARN. 
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Post by: okiecountryboy on October 01, 2010, 05:38:13 am
Nicely done, I'll take a green one. ;D
n2

ONCE AGAIN!!!!! BEAUTIFUL BOW!!!!
But N2 I chimed in before you...I want one with a pitch and fat finish!

And again, pardon the joshin, but that is one really purty weapon!
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: Dusan on October 04, 2010, 08:08:34 pm
I like your positive manner boys , but...John, if i dont talked about another truly hornbow aspects  - do you see clearly how looked bash /tip part/ an string position in real hornbow ?From mi position , you 6 month worked on ... horn beli  short reflex bow.
Title: Re: Persian Horn Bow
Post by: mullet on October 04, 2010, 10:57:23 pm
 That is one, pretty bow. But it would perform better , and give us a chance to check the tiller out if you weren't pulling it with four fingers and crank it back another 3". The thumb ring was an excellent suggestion to bring that bow closer to it's maximum potential. At that draw length it's like a Porsche in 3rd gear.