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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: TBod on June 15, 2010, 05:07:50 pm

Title: Elm with character
Post by: TBod on June 15, 2010, 05:07:50 pm
Hi!

Elm 63", 35# , 1,5" wide, handle is 4" .The bow is 1.5 ounce heavy according to massprinciple. Top limb got rollercoaster, twisting, snake and knots, bottom got a couple of small knots and a minor twist.

Don't know if the tiller is good or bad, tried to follow the advise on character bows in TBB4.







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Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Dane on June 15, 2010, 05:18:16 pm
What a terrific bow. To me, the tiller looks excellent. She is a beauty, and proves that osage is not the only snaky wood. I love elm.

Dane
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Del the cat on June 15, 2010, 05:32:39 pm
Nice job from such a tricks stave. The nock in the top pic looks interesting, any chance of a close up?
I like the way we have different sytles of nock.
Del
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: HatchA on June 15, 2010, 05:45:00 pm
Braced tiller looks fine.  Full draw pic makes the right (top) limb look a little stiffer when you compare the positioning to the chalk lines behind the bow but the grip is sitting slightly right of centre on the tree too so taking that into account, it looks like a great tiller!!

What a lovely piece of craftsmanship.
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: n2everythg on June 15, 2010, 05:50:01 pm
Man very nice job with a crooked little piece of wood.
Tiller looks spot on to me. How does it shoot?

What did you wrap the handle with? Is that bark?

nice job
wade
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: hammertime on June 15, 2010, 06:40:30 pm
Elm is my favorite and that is an awesome bow,tiller looks great to me.what is the handle wrap?nice job .hammertime
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 15, 2010, 07:28:42 pm
Excellent! Jawge
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: TBod on June 15, 2010, 08:01:14 pm
Jawge-Thanks!

Dane- I think I love Elm to, thanks!

hammertime- wrapping is Birchbark, thanks!

n2evrythng- don't know how it shoots, my shoulder is wasted. Have to wait a couple of weeks before shooting it. Thanks!

HatchA- I agree, maybe the upper limb is stronger. Might heat the lower a bit I only tempered the upper limb before. Gonna shoot some first. Thanks

Del- Here's the nock, pretty basic I think. Thanks!



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Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Josh on June 15, 2010, 08:12:34 pm
awesome bow man, tiller looks great... perfect for a stave with that much character!   :)
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: gmc on June 15, 2010, 08:24:27 pm
Nice job on the tiller. The handle wrap looks superb and very fitting for a primitive bow. Elm I haven't had a chance to try yet but certainly is on my bucket list. Very nice touch on a challenging stave.
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: wodpow on June 15, 2010, 08:43:41 pm
nice work Is it a limb bow? looks like some of the knots come in almost from the side like a limb bow or a real small stave.I wondered or is half a side of a limb removed a stave?   Is a bow a limb bow if it is made from half a limb or a stave bow. Most would of not seen a bow in that piece of wood, I would of looked down the thing and seen if the string would line up in the handle without a lot of adjusting. I would of dropped it and looked elsewhere unless I just had to test my skills let us know if it shoots or brakes Ect. 
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: PeteC on June 15, 2010, 09:48:04 pm
Nice work on a snakey piece of elm.Don't feel like the lone ranger,I've never been able to make mass with any of my elm bows,yet they are good performers.Again,great job. God Bless
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Pat B on June 16, 2010, 12:58:18 am
Well done. Character bows rock!  8)
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Del the cat on June 16, 2010, 06:40:21 am
Thanks for the nock pic.
I'm working on a Yew primitive at the mo' I'm going for narrow deep tips (that should remove the small crack/check in the end with a bit of luck), I like your minimalist nock, nice simple shoulder and not too much spare stuff hanging off the end!
I'll prob end up with something similar with a slim bit of WB horn on the back, should look good on the Yew sapwood.
I'll post it when she's done.
Del
Ha! I've just worked out what that big line is on one limb, it's a blade of grass (pic #2 in your original post, my colour vision isn't all it could be so I thought it was a black line at first)...that could be a nice motif for a paint job one day (I don't normally decorate bows, I don't much like stain either, or varnish come to that! ::), maybe I'm just a lazy old cat)
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Pappy on June 16, 2010, 07:32:15 am
Very nice job,that is sweet. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: TBod on June 16, 2010, 08:12:27 am
Pappy, PatB, PeteC, gmc, Josh - Thanks a lot, your boasting my ego, good! Now I'm ready for the other side of that log. It's gonna be more tricky..

woodpow - yes a lot of knots come in from the side. I choose to saw it in half that way. The stave is from the middle section of small tree of about 2" in diameter. The top gave me a crossbow blade and the bottom section gives two pretty normal staves. Stringalignment was perfect by accident and didnīt need to fixed. The other side of the stave is in the pic. Thanks!

Del- Haha.. cool idea about the grass. I saw another pretty cool nock somewhere and copied it see pic. You could probably cut where I marked with red and loose more nonworking weight

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Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: wodpow on June 16, 2010, 10:52:16 pm
I need to get some elm processed so I can give it a try. last time I was around elm it about wore me out with one of those big wide body splitting mauls an some big logs. the straight  stuff grows in the deep woods around hear and has a long central trunk going for the sun. I don't even know what kind of Elm it is. But I know it won,t be long like this winter one will be coming down and I will find out.
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: dwardo on June 17, 2010, 08:00:09 am
Thats a great looking bow and tiller, bloody good show considering the stave.

I too love elm  ;D
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: dragonman on June 17, 2010, 04:52:25 pm
Nice work on a difficult piece of wood
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: TBod on June 17, 2010, 05:26:04 pm
dwardo, dragonman - thanks!
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Cooper on June 19, 2010, 06:25:51 am
You did an amazing job on this one - a great bow. I am very impressed and wish I would have your talents …  :)
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: medicinewheel on June 19, 2010, 05:41:18 pm
Great job on that tiller!
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: ricktrojanowski on June 20, 2010, 10:40:13 pm
Wow, That is one tricky piece of Elm.  You did an excellent job.  The handle wrap is great, terrific job you should be very proud of that one.
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: TBod on June 21, 2010, 02:58:59 pm
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: Lombard on June 21, 2010, 03:16:04 pm
Nice job on a tricky piece of wood. I have some Winged Elm seasoning, but it is straight as can be.
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: mox1968 on June 21, 2010, 09:22:32 pm
great job looks like a keeper!!
Title: Re: Elm with character
Post by: TBod on June 22, 2010, 05:26:30 pm
Thanks!