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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: KShip85 on April 23, 2010, 09:50:55 am

Title: Tree ID help
Post by: KShip85 on April 23, 2010, 09:50:55 am

I was out trying to identify some trees and came across three that are giving me some trouble.  All three are growing on a wooded hillside above a creek.  I'm thinking some kind of elm for the last one but I'm not for sure. Thanks for the help.

Kip

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Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: Jake Levi on April 23, 2010, 10:08:13 am

I agree on the Elm,

2nd a member of the Poplar clan, need good look at the leaves ,

first one looks like a southern resident, leaves me out.

Good luck on them, I'll be watching the thread.

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: Hillbilly on April 23, 2010, 01:07:36 pm

The first one is American beech, the second and third are elms.

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: MikmaqArcher on April 23, 2010, 03:39:27 pm

Beech and elms no doubt about it!

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: TRACY on April 24, 2010, 06:32:23 am

Quote from: Hillbilly on April 23, 2010, 01:07:36 pm

The first one is American beech, the second and third are elms.

Right on!


Tracy

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: Jake Levi on April 24, 2010, 09:52:46 am

What kind of elm on the 2nd ?  The bark doesnt look at all like an elm or those I have known.

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: KShip85 on April 24, 2010, 12:57:46 pm

Thanks all, I was thinking maybe beech on the first one but the leaves threw me off a little, quite a lot larger than what I've been used to seeing on beech.  Any idea on the sub species of the elms?  The second one especially as I can't really match the bark with anything in my book.

Kip

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: El Destructo on April 24, 2010, 10:57:56 pm

                  Kip...what are ya worried about...all the Elm I have ever tried...made great Bows...if ya can split it......... ;)

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: KShip85 on April 25, 2010, 12:59:22 am

Haha, just a desire to know my trees...little OCD in that respect at times ;)

Kip

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: TRACY on April 25, 2010, 02:35:14 am

HOwdy neighbor! Didn't realize your location until now and it looks like American Elm uUlmus americana. The only other choice would be red elm and like Michael said they are both great candidates for some great bows. When you split out some staves you'll realize how tough it is. Good luck!


Tracy

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: Jude on April 25, 2010, 07:39:33 am

That second one is swamp elm isn't it?

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: Jake Levi on April 25, 2010, 10:20:45 am

After elm was mentioned I wondered about swamp elm, I have heard of it but never seen any, the bark on this doesnt look like any elm I know.

I also ruled out beech on the first as I have never seen any beech leaves that large, most of the beech I grew up with has gone the way of the blight, just memories now.

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: Hillbilly on April 25, 2010, 11:18:39 am

The elms you should have in your area are Ulmus americana (American elm,) U. rubra (Slippery elm,) U. alata (winged elm,) and U. thomasii (rock elm.) As it is hard to positively ID a tree from a photo or two,  I would use the key in a tree book to see what you have between those four.

Title: Re: Tree ID help
Post by: denny on April 25, 2010, 05:34:26 pm

I just built several red elm bows. I agree with hillbilly...beech and slippery elm. I got both growing all around me. Denny