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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 01:50:47 am

Title: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 01:50:47 am
I think I told some of you that the next time I made a pine tree I would take a few pictures...so here they are.

  I wasn't going to knap any tonight, but this little piece of Ky blue was calling to me ;D

 The first picture is the preform.  I try to get good convexity in the point and the edge dead on center.

The next picture, is after I notched it.  I see no reason to serrate it first, since I might break it notching it. ;)

 Next, I run one pass of flakes along the left side of each face from base to tip.  Then, holding the point by the base, pointing away from me, I abrade away from the face I already flaked...in between the flake scars.  This brings the edge back closer to center.

 After that, I flake the right side of each face...from base to tip also. 
 
 Then all that's left to do is take a fine tipped flaker and exaggerate the points of the serrations. ;)

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Post by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 02:01:12 am
And here is the finished point.

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Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: sailordad on March 23, 2010, 02:26:02 am
Shannon,very nice as usual

when you abraid in between the flake scars do use a small diamond file so that you can avoid the serration tips while abraiding?
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 02:30:35 am
Yep!
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: brian melton on March 23, 2010, 02:39:14 am
Nice point Shannon!
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: VenomBOWslinger on March 23, 2010, 04:16:32 am
Nice work Shannon.  Kinda a build along.... Maybe u should put up on you tube...

Russ
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Post by: DanaM on March 23, 2010, 07:50:23 am
Danggumit yer gonna have to show us all at the Classic eh :)
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: Timo on March 23, 2010, 08:40:42 am
Well.......I think you can do one in your sleep now boy! ;)

 I'm glad you showed some pics of the preform.You have got me wanting to try one now, so...maybe later on tonight, I'll give one a go.

(Don't be waiting on me to post a pic though) :-[
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: Pappy on March 23, 2010, 08:47:12 am
Nice work Shanon,you are the pine tree man. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Timo on March 23, 2010, 08:52:15 am
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Nice work Shanon,you are the pine tree man. Smiley
   Pappy

No Pappy, he is the Pine tree "Nut" >:D ;D
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: GregB on March 23, 2010, 09:03:04 am
Beautiful point Shannon!
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: RG on March 23, 2010, 09:21:16 am
Good job Sir

Ron
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Post by: Bone pile on March 23, 2010, 09:38:57 am
Make it look as easy as baking a cake ;)I'll have to take a look in the bucket and see if I have anything worth a try.Thanks for the photos.Do you put a sharp point on your flaker or a blunt?
Bone pile
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Post by: leapingbare on March 23, 2010, 10:05:54 am
I like the brown spot! thats a nice one! i need to try a few.
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: jamie on March 23, 2010, 10:11:11 am
thanks shannon. its pretty much what i have been doing except im setting up the second platform the same way i would get a notch ready. i just need to bring it back to center. great work bubba. peace
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Post by: FlintWalker on March 23, 2010, 10:29:27 am
Glad ya'll like it, and hope the pictures help some of you.

 Bonepile, for the serrating I hammer my flaker tip flat and use the edge.  It's thinner than a dime, and I have to sharpen it a couple times just to do the serrations on one point.

Jamie, keeping the platform on center helps keep the flake scars the same depth on both sides and keeps it balanced.
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: Stoker on March 23, 2010, 10:54:50 am
Cool knappalong Thanks for sharing
Thanks Leroy
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Post by: cowboy on March 23, 2010, 11:02:45 am
You and Jesse are gonna have to give me some lessons at Pappy's. That's another perfect point...
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Post by: Hillbilly on March 23, 2010, 02:27:30 pm
Sweeeeet.
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: meximike on March 24, 2010, 01:18:06 am
Cool, I learned something from that. Your preform explains alot of what I have been doing wrong with my pine trees. Are you doing any percussion or is it mostly pressure..? MexiMike
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Post by: FlintWalker on March 24, 2010, 02:02:44 am
The only percussion is just that of thinning the biface down.  After that...it's all pressure.   I spend as much time on the preform as I do the rest of the point.  It's important to get the preform as straight and balanced as possible because once you run those last pressure passes, you got what you got.  There is no going back and straightening things out. ;)
  I'm glad to see that somebody gained a little from the pictures. ;D
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Post by: Parnell on March 24, 2010, 10:50:52 am
Thanks for posting those pictures.  I took a lot from them.  What is the history on these heads?  Where found, time frames, etc?  They're big for arrowheads, anyone used them for hunting?
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: FlintWalker on March 24, 2010, 08:32:50 pm
Parnell,  The best I can gather they came fromthe archiac period and are found mostly in KY, TN and IN.  They are associated with major waterways and were believed to be for fishing.
Title: Re: "Slim Shady".....Birth of a pine tree Lots of pics
Post by: meximike on March 25, 2010, 12:51:20 am
I made one today with no so good results. It was going to be real nice till I blew the ear of while notching. I punch notch . Maybe this is where I went wrong. How do I keep the ears on?