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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Pappy on March 10, 2010, 06:55:21 am
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Question ,Gary Davis stopped by yesterday on his way to Texas,he had told me he had something different he wanted us to work on on his way back next week.He had 2 Osage stave's for a small
diameter Osage tree.They have the ring chased and 3 layers of sinew on them. The difference is the back is the belly,He chased the belly side.The one he gave me still has the bark on the side facing me on the handle,My question is has any of you guys done this before,I have heard of reverse bows just can't say I ever seen one or how they may act different for any other.Wished I had taken some pictures,I will get some up later. :)
Pappy
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Pappy, Tim Flood used to make backwards bows from hickory at Mojam. As I recall, he tillered the back of the bow. They worked out well and shot great. I've never built one, so can't really help you much.I could see no difference in performance. I always figured it was just something different to make? ;)
looking forward to the pics
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Should be a interesting project. I'll have to watch you two pro's work through it. :)
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If you think about it in terms of how ACS works, there could be something too it. Theres bound to be a smidge of concave, or at least flatness to the back, and I've always held the notion osage rings behave as laminates under strain. I'd imagine with care and the right specimen the back ring could be made sound enough, particularly with sinew and in light of Timo's recent experience using quarter or rift sawn osage as a backing. There was a time I would have predicted the back ring would fail, but this could be an interesting project. But the effect, or advantage, may not be so pronounced as to be revealed in a typical design and/or crafting.
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Tim Baker has said that wood doesn't know which way it's supposed to bend........
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I've made some Ipe self and backed longbows with the wood in all angles. I don't think it matters too much as long as the fibers follow the back. The last laminated bow I posted here was composed from two of Timo's edge grained slats glued together. I bet historically it happened more than we would have thought would have.
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Thanks guys,I will let you know how it works,I think it will be about like any other. :)
Pappy
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Plan on working on these Tomorrow,I will update how they turn out,here is a couple of pictures of what we will start with,note the bark on the handle,this is the belly side,also how the grain/growth ring looks different.Should know something by Wed.
Pappy
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Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
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I cut a bunch of small dia osage last week,,2 to 3 in,, backwards would keep you from glueing handle on,,keep us posted mike
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Mike You might want to save a few of them small one for Gary,he said he had got to where he really likes the small diameter stuff. I will let yall know how it goes Wed. :)
Pappy
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I've never did this either but had talked to bowyers who have.EASER TILLERING I was told is the only aqvanage.
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I've never did this either but had talked to bowyers who have.EASER TILLERING I was told is the only aqvanage.
Did they say if there wre any disadvantages?
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I've made backwards board bows. Jawge
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Gary lives a few miles from me and buys quite a bit of osage from me. Those small suckers are his favorite for pony bows. He just called about a week and a half ago and told me he wants some about 4 inch diameter for a project hes working on.
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It seems to me that by making the bow backwards, the high crown of the tree is not an issue as the back. Should turn out fine. Good luck. ;D
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I agree with ryoon. Especialyif the back is chased to one ring, the bow doesnt now its backwards. I bet it works out fine.
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