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Title: Burl?
Post by: kylerprochaska on February 24, 2010, 11:10:01 pm
Is burl worth anything....can it be made into anything to put on a bow?  Ive got a few trees in mind that have some big burls on them...thining about cutting them off or cutting the trees down
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: El Destructo on February 24, 2010, 11:12:27 pm
Kyler...you cut the Trees down ...and send the Burls to Me!! And I will make knife Handles from it..... ;D...Might even be in for a Trade for some....never know......
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: jthompson1995 on February 24, 2010, 11:21:51 pm
They're great for pens, bowls, vases, boxes, etc. too. For bows they would probably only be useable as part of a rigid riser or tip overlays.
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: kylerprochaska on February 25, 2010, 12:25:34 am
well im def gonna have to go cut some off....some for me and some for trade huh
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: DanaM on February 25, 2010, 07:40:13 am
Kyler they sell burl wood by the pound and it ain't cheap, check out the knife Mechslasher posted in anything else
it has a burl wood handle :)
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: El Destructo on February 25, 2010, 08:40:35 am
                                                                  DANA.............. :-X
 




                                                                              O:)
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: John K on February 25, 2010, 11:26:34 am
So whats the Black Locust Burl i have posted worth ? It's got to weigh 35 #'s ? but it's not dry !
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 25, 2010, 11:42:32 am
Red oak burl, makes very striking overlays also.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/presentationgradegizmo.jpg)

Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: jthompson1995 on February 25, 2010, 11:59:40 am
So whats the Black Locust Burl i have posted worth ? It's got to weigh 35 #'s ? but it's not dry !

Depends on the quality of the burl, where you sell it and who you sell it to. Being green (wet) lowers the price per pound typically but bowl turners typically prefer green wood. If you sold it whole you might get $2.50-$5 a pound depending on demand. Black locust is not the most sought after wood by many because it is a hard wood to turn.

If you were to mill it into blocks or planks and dry it you could probably get higher prices. The smaller you cut it, the higher the price per pound goes because you factor in loss for kerf, edges, etc. If you were to cut it down to pen blank size (7/8" square by 5"-5.5" long) you could get $2.50-$5 per blank if they were good quality, dry and you sell it in the right place (PM me if you want more info on this). Figuring each pen blank would only weigh 2-3 ounces, you'd get $20-$30 per pound.

It takes more time to mill it and dry it but you get more return.
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: John K on February 25, 2010, 12:10:02 pm
WOW ! I guess i'm going to start saving Burls  :)
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: Grunt on February 25, 2010, 01:14:41 pm
I use burls sometimes. Here are before and after shots.

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Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: Josh on February 25, 2010, 01:19:21 pm
 :o  ...words cannot describe how awesome that is...
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: John K on February 25, 2010, 01:19:56 pm
Dang Grunt, what kind of tree was that ? Pretty cool !
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: jthompson1995 on February 25, 2010, 01:40:30 pm
AWESOME!
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: Mechslasher on February 25, 2010, 01:49:11 pm
would that be considered a dessert bowl? ;D
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: mullet on February 25, 2010, 01:54:30 pm
 Fruit cocktail, maybe?
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: Hillbilly on February 25, 2010, 02:45:16 pm
 :o
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 25, 2010, 03:11:05 pm
I just made a pen out of ambonya burl, I bought the blank for 5 bucks, its 7/8'' square and 5'' long
I've been known to buy Honduran Rosewood burl for over 7 bucks a blank, depending on the quality ;D
just don't tell my dad I spent that much money on a little piece of wood ::) O:)
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: stickbender on February 25, 2010, 03:24:00 pm

     Dang Grunt!  Was she inside that burl all that time?  :o You got any more of those burls? :o  Got any Oriental burls? ;D ;D
Man now that is a Burl! 8)  :o and Bowl !! :o  What kind of tree was that?


                                                                         Wayne
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: Grunt on February 25, 2010, 03:51:50 pm
The burl was from a Yellow Birch tree up on Grandfather Mountain and when I got it it weighed 3500 lbs. The title of this piece is Grandfather Bowl. It was a commission that I did several years ago as a gift from one rich guy to another rich guy. It took me about a year to complete.
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: stickbender on February 25, 2010, 04:24:28 pm

     Coool !! 8)  Well I sure hope you emptied the bowl before you delivered it! ;D ;D ;D

                                                                   Wayne
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: jthompson1995 on February 25, 2010, 04:40:48 pm
I just made a pen out of ambonya burl, I bought the blank for 5 bucks, its 7/8'' square and 5'' long
I've been known to buy Honduran Rosewood burl for over 7 bucks a blank, depending on the quality ;D
just don't tell my dad I spent that much money on a little piece of wood ::) O:)

Amboyna and HRB are cheap compared to Cocobolo burl. I bought 1 blank (7/8" sq by 5") for $28. I still haven't made a pen from it yet (I'm kinda scared to mess it up). Not to mention real Zi'tan and Huanghuali which can go for $75 to $100 for a single blank of that size.
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: jturner on March 11, 2010, 09:39:15 pm
Is it best to cut them green or let them dry first? I have some that I would like to cut up but ive been putting it off til i figured out the best way to cut them without ruining them.
Title: Re: Burl?
Post by: jthompson1995 on March 11, 2010, 10:46:55 pm
It will take a long time for them to dry if they are large unless you cut them up. I would suggest cutting it into slabs between 1 and 2 inches thick (or thicker if you need larger pieces) and sealing them all around with wax or green wood selaer (Anchorseal is one brand). You need to seal burls allaround because the swirling grain makes them more prone to crack anywhere, not just on the end grain.

You need to make sure you dry them slowly as burls are prone to twisting and cracking if dried too fast. Make sure to cut the pieces a little thicker than you need to allow for some wood loss due to shrinkage and twisting/cracking.