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Title: Don't stone me...
Post by: Frode on February 22, 2010, 11:13:16 pm
My son in law found this beside a dumpster in New Jersey.  The bad news; he kept it.
The good news; I'm going to have him send it to me for "safe keeping", and I will send him and my daughter a pair of proper wood bows, all they have to do is promise not to shoot anything in the house that I wouldn't, get some instruction on safe, correct shooting, and we will speak of it no more.
But before we speak of it no more, has anyone here ever seen one of these before?  It's aluminum, about 60" tip to tip (?), and the only markings on it are 52lbs 28"-29".  I've never seen one before.   ???
Just curious.
Frode

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Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 22, 2010, 11:14:57 pm
no pics it didn't happen
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Post by: Timo on February 22, 2010, 11:18:51 pm
Great bow fishing bow! 8)
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Post by: El Destructo on February 22, 2010, 11:29:48 pm
American Archery made Aluminum Bows way back when...PAR-X made by Park Tool & Die in Jackson Michigan about the 1930-1940's..... so did Grimes Bows...made in Pontiac Michigan back in the 50's.... be careful with this...because the Aluminum gets brittle with Age and can Shatter on you when Shot...I would advise making a Wallhanger out of this Bow...and not chancing shooting it....JMO
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Tsalagi on February 22, 2010, 11:45:08 pm
An archery collector might actually pay some good money or do a very nice trade for it.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Frode on February 23, 2010, 12:34:06 am
Thanks everyone!  I've passed along the cautions.
Frode
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Post by: sailordad on February 23, 2010, 12:47:14 am
i think i seen one like that at the POPE AND YOUNG ARCHERY MUSEUM in chatflied ,mn.
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Post by: Pappy on February 23, 2010, 07:10:46 am
Nice find,I have seen one kind of like that before but don't think it was a take down.Cool. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: mullet on February 23, 2010, 10:56:03 am
 Like El D said, I wouldn't shoot it. When I get to the Hotel tonight I'll do some research.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Badger on February 24, 2010, 04:31:55 am
   The first one I saw was at the big swapmeet in Quartsite Az. Nice looking bows but I hear they are dangerous and can explode without warning. Steve
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: medicinewheel on February 24, 2010, 04:40:37 am
....I would advise making a Wallhanger out of this Bow...and not chancing shooting it....JMO

I wouldn't dare pull that bow! The name of the problem is metal fatigue is guess...!
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: mullet on February 24, 2010, 09:25:00 am
 Steve, did you know the name of the Manufacturer? I couldn't find it last night. My guess is it is late 40's, early 50's. And those old aluminum bows will blow. Bear Archery almost went bankrupt because of them.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: El Destructo on February 24, 2010, 12:04:32 pm
I listed 3 Manufacturers that made them back in the 40s and 50s.... could be more ... that's all I could remember...
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Aries on February 24, 2010, 04:05:13 pm
thats a pretty neat find. i have never seen one from aluminum. though i have wondered bout tillering one out of a leaf spring with a plasma cutter and angle grinder........ ;D
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Jude on February 24, 2010, 05:35:20 pm
Yep, aluminum gets brittle with age, whether it's worked or not.  That's why aircraft need fuselage rivets replaced on time schedule, not a mileage schedule.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: mullet on February 24, 2010, 09:19:14 pm
  Most of these bows from that time period were made from left over aircraft aluminum from WW11. I have a takedown I'm still shooting that the riser is made from aluminum but the limbs are Glass.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Frode on February 24, 2010, 11:55:11 pm
Who'd a thunk it  :-\.  I didn't realize how much history would be attached to this bow.  I've heard of steel bows from India, but I'd never have imagined aluminum as a viable bow material.  Well, this time tomorrow that bow (and everything else they own) will be packed and on the road.  The kids are moving from NJ to West Palm Beach FL, a job transfer.
I have seen the future of Christmas vacation, and it is good  ;D!
Thanks again,
Frode
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: stickbender on February 25, 2010, 04:26:26 am


     When I was in High School, in shop we used to order a crossbow kit, and it had a 50 lb. aluminum prod.  Imagine trying that today! :o  There would be a police investigation, and counseling...... ::)  Anyway, like they said, after awhile, it would break.  I had a friend of mine try to make a prod out of a leaf spring, but he ground the temper out of it.  If he had know how to re temper it, it would have been a very powerful bow!! :o  Yeah, do like they said, and hang it on the wall.  Like Eddie said some of the aluminum products, were made out of scrap plane aluminum.  They made canoes, and boats, and they were not anodized, and would corrode.
                                                                                               Wayne
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Post by: mullet on February 25, 2010, 02:22:58 pm
 Give us a shout when you come to Florida. West Palm is 3 hours south of me. Your closer to stickbender or shoot across the state to swampbow, Parnel or bonepile. Coowachobee is just a little farther south.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: stickbender on February 25, 2010, 03:16:02 pm

     Frode, I am an hour away from West Palm Beach.  However......I am moving to Montana, hopefully by June, or July......But I might make it down here for a Christmas in the future......

                                                                                      Wayne
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Frode on February 25, 2010, 10:28:16 pm

     Frode, I am an hour away from West Palm Beach.  However......I am moving to Montana, hopefully by June, or July......But I might make it down here for a Christmas in the future......

                                                                                      Wayne
Give us a shout when you come to Florida. West Palm is 3 hours south of me. Your closer to stickbender or shoot across the state to swampbow, Parnel or bonepile. Coowachobee is just a little farther south.

Sounds like a plan to me!
Frode
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Jude on February 27, 2010, 07:25:40 am

     Frode, I am an hour away from West Palm Beach.  However......I am moving to Montana, hopefully by June, or July......But I might make it down here for a Christmas in the future......

                                                                                      Wayne

Gonna be a dental floss tycoon?  ;D
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: stickbender on February 27, 2010, 08:41:15 am

     Yep, they pretty much have all of their teeth out there.  ;) Now down here...... ::)

                                                                         Wayne
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: El Destructo on February 27, 2010, 11:40:40 am

     Frode, I am an hour away from West Palm Beach.  However......I am moving to Montana, hopefully by June, or July......But I might make it down here for a Christmas in the future......

                                                                                      Wayne

Gonna be a dental floss tycoon?  ;D

Jude you just showed Your Age ...with that Quote from a famous Zappa Song......... :P
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2010, 12:21:53 pm
...he'll be riding his pygmy pony and using zircon encrusted tweezers!   ;D  Gotta love Frank Zappa!!
 
  I have an alum crossbow prod I bought at a flea market probably 25 years ago. It was strung when I bought it and still is.  ;D Never tried to shoot it just more of my archery collection.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: El Destructo on February 27, 2010, 12:33:29 pm
You are an old Man Pat....... ;D..,,and what about ole...... Dynamo-Hum............. >:D
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Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2010, 12:39:07 pm
First listened to Frank in the late 60. Little Suzie Creamcheese I think was the name.  ::)
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Post by: El Destructo on February 27, 2010, 01:09:45 pm
First listened to Frank in the late 60. Little Suzie Creamcheese I think was the name.  ::)

Suzie Creamcheese was a Fictional Character that Frank made up for the Albums...it was really Jeannie Vassoir...a voclaist in the Band for a couple Albums...then it was Lisa Cohen after that....man I am old........ :P
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: stickbender on February 27, 2010, 01:16:27 pm

     Well, El D, I didn't want to say anything, but since you brought it up...... ;D

                                                          Wayne
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Jude on February 27, 2010, 03:02:29 pm
I miss Uncle Frank.
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2010, 03:09:46 pm
We have a local(somewhat) radio station that plays Frank every Friday at lunch time. Called..."Frank on Friday"! Been doing it for almost 20 years.
   now back to the aluminum bows.....! ;D
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: vtclimber on March 03, 2010, 09:33:41 am
I got just about every Zappa album out there. Love him! The time with Captain Beefheart on Bongo Fury wasn't bad either...

And we can jam at Joe's Garage....
Title: Re: Don't stone me...
Post by: medicinewheel on March 03, 2010, 03:36:26 pm
WOW lots of Frank Zappa fans out here! - What a surprise!
I don't have too much of his music on record...well some 20, 25 Cd's and 10, 15 good old shellac discs... some rarities for sure; live in New York, some of the bootleg stuff, too...