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Title: heat treat cane
Post by: dshull on February 20, 2010, 10:12:12 pm
I was just at 3rivers archery I got some of the cane shafts what are and how do you heat treat cane? and dose it mater if you do it or not ?
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: mullet on February 20, 2010, 11:00:52 pm
 I've used heat to straighten cane, but there is no need to heat treat cane. To do so not knowing what you are doing , will take a big chance of making it too brittle or changeing the spine.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: aero86 on February 20, 2010, 11:25:56 pm
Like mullet said, don't worry about it.  Its pretty good stuff un treated..  if it gets crooked on ya, its easy to straighten out
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: NTD on February 21, 2010, 12:57:19 am
3 rivers carries cane now?
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: El Destructo on February 21, 2010, 02:38:52 am
3 rivers carries cane now?

Not that I can find...only thing made with Cane on their Website is Great Plains Tonkin Cane Bows....... ??? ....but then I don't live near the Shop...and can't go and visit...like some can......... ;D
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 21, 2010, 03:14:23 am
look under primitives,then arrow building. they used to stock em
dunno what they mean??? trying to make the product sound better I assume, I imagine they really just mean heat straightened, like all other cane shafts
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: riarcher on February 21, 2010, 08:37:10 am
$50/doz. too.  http://www.3riversarchery.com/product.asp?i=6640
No spine / size offered.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: jthompson1995 on February 21, 2010, 09:50:09 am
$50/doz. too.  http://www.3riversarchery.com/product.asp?i=6640
No spine / size offered.

Same price as David Knight's but he offers them spine and weight matched.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: mullet on February 21, 2010, 10:14:45 am
 They might be Davids.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: Hillbilly on February 21, 2010, 12:33:10 pm
What Eddie said. They usually get tempered enough in the straightening process.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 21, 2010, 12:42:13 pm
They might be Davids.

I could be wrong but I believe they're from Jim of Rudderbows
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: El Destructo on February 21, 2010, 12:43:08 pm
Dang...for $50.00 a Dozen...I would for sure get Mine from David and Cora...I have seen their Arrows fly...I know that theywill be Spined and Straight when I got them.......
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: aero86 on February 21, 2010, 03:58:04 pm
Wow 25 for 6..  I thought about selling some down the road fletched with field points for that price
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: NTD on February 21, 2010, 04:41:16 pm
Wow 25 for 6..  I thought about selling some down the road fletched with field points for that price

If you ever do I will be your best customer.  I like making arrows all right but for $50 a dozen I will glady spend my time doing other things and spend my money with you ;D
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: mullet on February 21, 2010, 08:17:41 pm
 I've been known to send somebody a bundle of 500 for 2 dozen finished arrows, matched and spined.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 21, 2010, 08:19:09 pm
Dang...for $50.00 a Dozen...I would for sure get Mine from David and Cora...I have seen their Arrows fly...I know that theywill be Spined and Straight when I got them.......


I'd buy them from David for more than that, definately worth it
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 21, 2010, 08:20:11 pm
I've been known to send somebody a bundle of 500 for 2 dozen finished arrows, matched and spined.


Fellin like a trade Eddie? ;D
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: NTD on February 21, 2010, 08:34:20 pm
Eddie, considering it only costs $80 give or take, to get a bundle of 500 shipped, I think getting 2 doz matched and spined finished arrows, is one heck of a deal!!!  For YOU!!! ;D :o

And I bought a dozen straightened and sanded shafts from David Knight, they were great!! Flew incredible but I only have 7 left.  Broke 5 already at the field range :(
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: mullet on February 21, 2010, 08:35:48 pm
 NTD,   hush! ;D :D
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: dshull on February 21, 2010, 11:30:34 pm
the shafts seem to be small in size,I have not spined then yet.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 22, 2010, 01:36:21 am
well I'm assuming EVERY one would be arrow worthy.....right Eddie? ;D
I think $200 worth of arrow deserves a little sorting!
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: NTD on February 22, 2010, 01:55:39 am
At Dknight's deserved price of $140 a doz it's more like $280 worth of arrows ;D  Anyone who makes cane though knows it's a worthwile price.  And he makes some perty arrows.  I'd pay it but the way I'm breaking arrows lately I'd go broke quick.
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 22, 2010, 02:07:45 am
At Dknight's deserved price of $140 a doz it's more like $280 worth of arrows ;D  Anyone who makes cane though knows it's a worthwile price.  And he makes some perty arrows.  I'd pay it but the way I'm breaking arrows lately I'd go broke quick.

+1 the only time I will justify the risk of breakage and buy a doz of them perty sticks is if I was competing in a trad shoot. for now ill stick to dowel arrows and crookety cane :D
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: Mechslasher on February 22, 2010, 10:30:56 am
you can temper cane to raise the spine if you need to.  i only do this if i come up short on spine when working on a set of arrows.  i'll take a lower spined shaft and give it a good temper to raise the spine to match the others.  after cane solar cures for a month or two, i'll go over it with a propane torch to give it a mild temper and also do some minor straightening while it's hot.  a mild temper will caramelize the sugars in the cell walls and make it a tougher shaft.  the tonkin doesn't need to be tempered as it's dry as a bone when you get it.  i don't even want to get started on how lucky eddie is with arrow deals! ::)
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: riarcher on February 22, 2010, 11:29:57 am
Being just a poor boy all I can do is drool over them beautiful $140 arrows!
But, I'd rather have my uglies that I know are close in tolerances than pay $50-$80 for some questionables (and almost as ugly).

But, If I ever win Power Ball...............  ;D
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: mullet on February 22, 2010, 02:13:20 pm
   Zander, I really don't need any arrows right now. At last count I have over 300.  ;)
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: aero86 on February 22, 2010, 02:14:53 pm
are you getting ready for battle mullet?
Title: Re: heat treat cane
Post by: ZanderPommo on February 24, 2010, 02:22:56 am
wow, seriously. :D
at last count i have 3 matched arrows, i need to get to work :o