Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: dragonman on January 07, 2010, 04:42:05 pm
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I've never posted here before I usually hang around in 'bows', I have one question, When you attach feathers off center to increase the spin, which way do you offset the feather? with the concave surface of the feather angled down at the front? or the other way around? I have always put them on straight before. This has probably been disscussed before here but I cant find it. Thanks, (in anticipation of the answer)
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Put the dull side of the feather to the wind.
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A right wing feather is off set to the right, and a left wing feather to the left.
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I do like adb. The feather will have a natural curve.
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maybe I'm dumb , but now I'm confused, Abd, to the right and left of where? not trying to be funny , but which way are you looking at the arrow when you say this? left will become right if you turn the arrow around ??? I've noticed the natural curve Mullet, should this be angled into the wind or away from it??? I'm not clear now
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Looking from the nock end of the arrow, the front end of a left wing feather will go to the left of the rear as you are looking at it. A right wing feather, the front end will go to the right of the rear of the feather. Does that help any?
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Looking from the nock end of the arrow, the front end of a left wing feather will go to the left of the rear as you are looking at it. A right wing feather, the front end will go to the right of the rear of the feather. Does that help any?
Yup.
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yes, thanks, thats clear now
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That's why I just said to put the dull side to the wind, easier than explaining lefts and rights. :)
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I started to explain it step by step but deleted it, I was starting to confuse myself. ??? ;)
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Its actually quite difficult on these commercial turkey feathers to see what side is the dullest, but on some hawk feathers I got its more obvious . I did an experiment today and threw an arrow with straight fletchings to see which way it span, and it spun in the opposite direction to an arrow I fletched as recommended above with the dull side angled down into the wind ??? this really confused me , I thought it would spin the same way but faster. How come it didnt?? ( if anyone is still listening)
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You meant Some Fake Hawk Feather............ ;)
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no, El Destructo, these are real , sea eagle feathers fom Norway,and some vulture feathers I've got, I want to make some arrows from them, but I want to get things right and not waste them because they are hard to get.
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They are Illegal to have here in the States...without the proper Paperwork from the U.S. Government!
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maybe they are illegal here too, I'm not up on these laws. I know for sure no birds where harmed getting these feathers, and thats really all I care about, whose gonna know anyway, the police are so dumb around here they wouldnt know one feather from another or even care. As a matter of interest, if you found a dead eagle over there in the States, would you use its feathers? how would anyone find out ? do they check out peoples feathers, or are people just very respectfull of the law, I'm just interested
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Eagle Feathers are revered here in the States by all Native Tribes....and are all...even the littlest of Hawks...Illegal to have in your possession without the proper paperwork....I know a man that works for the National Park Service here that can tell you what species of Feather you hold up to Him 9.5 out of 10 times....without touching it or getting closer than 5-10 foot....and tell you what wing it's from ...and on some ...whether it was a Male or Female Bird....so they are not all Dumb to these facts...at least not here...as for the Dead Bird....it's a Felony to touch them...period...without the Paperwork....no exceptions.
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Thats pretty cool that these birds are so well protected and respected. They have shot all the eagles over here in the UK back in the 50's there are only a handfull left in Scotland, Here in Wales dumb farmers even blast the hawks with shotguns for no reason at all, and no-one would bother what feathers you had. I would never kill a hawk for his feathers but I use dead birds I find
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I don't think they have raptor feather laws in the UK. If you look at photos of various Scottish clan chiefs when they get together in Scotland, many of them have Eagle or other raptor feathers in their bonnets, behind the clan badge, to denote chieftanship.
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Almost all species of birds are protected to some extent under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. In the states, it is actually illegal to possess a feather from any migratory bird (although that is never enforced). I can attest to the needing permits to posses feathers. I have two freezers full of eagle feathers that I am using for analysis for some of my research. What I don't use will go the feds once the study is done. It is a BIG fine over here if you get caught with an eagle feather and don't have the appropriate permits........
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It's the Big Brother Avian Flu syndrome...... ;D
Wayne
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Yep , they got laws for just about everything! but still I think it is good the eagles are protected.
Vtclimber , what kind of work do you do that you got so many eagle feathers? if theres no laws here you could always send them here when your work is done ::)
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Almost all species of birds are protected to some extent under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. In the states, it is actually illegal to possess a feather from any migratory bird (although that is never enforced).
Wouldn't that include goose feathers, then?
Goog
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Geese are listed as gamebirds, and are legal to hunt within open seasons and possess the parts thereof. Same with ducks, doves, crows, etc.