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Title: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on December 27, 2009, 09:15:42 pm
Guys,

I was forwarded the link to this site from another forum after I asked about building my first bow.  I joined a few weeks ago, read a lot of threads and looked at some of the links from this site.  I've even emailed a member for my first advice.  I figure the least I could do was to post my first attempt here.  Whether I'm successful or I crack and burn on my first attempt, I'm really looking forward to this new hobby and where it takes me.

So here is my first attempt.  I choose the easier route and started with an Red Oak board.  I've shaved my limbs down and glued the extra piece on for my grip.  I'll let it sit til Tuesday and begin again then.



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Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: adb on December 27, 2009, 10:15:26 pm
Are you going to cut your shape profiles before you start to tiller? Also, how long is your board? It looks very short... not an easy first tiller. If I was you, I would have forgotten about the glue-on handle, and just make a simple bendy-handle bow. When you say... "I've shaved my limbs down", what do you mean? You've taken wood off the belly already? If so, stop until you've got your profile shape cut. Good luck... make some sawdust, and see what happens!!
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on December 27, 2009, 10:59:42 pm
I'm going by a few threads I read.  My bow is 68" long.  As far as shaving my limbs.  I've shaved them down to just a good starting point with the tilering.  I know I have more to go but I figure the process of slow will get me there.  I'm working with a shoulder that's still recovering from surgery and it's seems to be a good PT application.  Next going to work on my limb tips.  I'm ready to cut them out but wanted to get the grip built up first.  I may have some questions on forming my grip but for now its my tips are next.
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: zenmonkeyman on December 27, 2009, 11:09:38 pm
http://poorfolkbows.com/oak.htm

Required reading for a 1st red oak board bow!
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on December 27, 2009, 11:13:25 pm
Thanks, it's one of my links I'm going by along with George's and a few others.
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: luis32 on December 27, 2009, 11:18:48 pm
fieldmouse I jsut made my first bow like 5 days ago and I think that the most important thing in making bows is having patience,going little by little,exercise the limbs.looking foward to seeing your progess.
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on December 30, 2009, 10:56:28 pm
Not much of an update but I've completed my tiller press and shaped my ends.  Read to begin the tillering process.

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Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: zenmonkeyman on December 30, 2009, 11:16:21 pm
You'll want to swoop your handle gently into the belly before you start bending, otherwise the handle will pop off on you.  Have you got it to floor tiller yet? 
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on December 30, 2009, 11:50:49 pm
I was wondering about the handle, thanks.  As far as floor tillering, yes and no.  Yes I've been doing it but probably not as far as I need to go. 
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: adb on December 30, 2009, 11:53:02 pm
I think you might want to do some more profile shaping and handle fade tapering before you tiller any further.
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on January 02, 2010, 02:11:51 pm
Ok, it's at 10" draw at 50#.  I'm shooting for 50# at 26. 

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Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: zenmonkeyman on January 02, 2010, 02:25:49 pm
You're going to end up with a lot of set if you pull too much weight before you need to, especially at hinges like you've got at the fade on the right.  The rule of thumb I keep reading here is that you'll pick up 3# for every inch of draw.  When you've got 10" of tip movement at 20-25#, brace it, then gradually work up the weight from there.
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: El Destructo on January 02, 2010, 02:31:15 pm
Never pull your Bow during Tillering to anything higher than the Weight that You are shooting for...never!  Also make sure that when You are taking Pictures of the Tillering Process ...that you do it from directly in front of the Bow...these Pictures are on an Angle and give false perspectives of what the Tiller really looks like....believe me it will mess things up! Go slow...watch the Bend...mark what isn't bending smoothly...scrape only these Areas...and then bend it again and again...doing the same thing...but never go over the 50 pounds that you want it to be in the end...overstressing it now will ruin it for you...I can not emphasize it too much...go slow and learn from every scrape you make....JMO
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on January 02, 2010, 05:28:27 pm
Yea, sorry about the angle.  I had to borrow the wife and you get what you can get.  When my kids get back, I'll post another pic.
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on January 03, 2010, 08:23:53 pm
Here is my pic for the day.  I'm now pulling 50# at 20".  I've got a better scale on the way that I bought off ebay.  So, I guess I'm done for the weekend.  I'll pick it up next weekend.

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Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: El Destructo on January 03, 2010, 08:29:35 pm
Now that looks good! I would work about the last 8 inches of Limb now if it were mine... get the last little bit bending a little more...unless you like the Stiff Tips...I prefer to have them all but the last 2-3 inches bending well....JMO.....and maybe a bit more at the Fades also...but watch it so you don't take off too much weight...
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: woodstick on January 03, 2010, 08:43:17 pm
that looks spot on. good job i bet she is a shooter.
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: bubby on January 06, 2010, 12:25:15 am
are you still on the long string, you need to cut the nocks in and go to the short string. you should go to the short string once the bow is bending enough to get about 3" of brace height
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: Josh on January 06, 2010, 03:03:48 pm
yeah... definitely need to get it off the long string... you risk coming in way under weight using the long string too long..  the string angle from the long string gives a higher weight reading than it will be at full brace  (took me like 5 bows to figure it out for myself  ;) )  If you haven't braced it for the first time yet, go ahead and brace it, you will be able to see true tiller better that way.  looking pretty good so far for a first. The first one is always the coolest, then you are hooked!  Good luck!   :)  -josh
Title: Re: My first attempt to build a bow
Post by: fieldmouse on January 06, 2010, 10:29:05 pm
Thanks for all the feedback guys.  It's pretty hard to do this buy only reading other people's builds, books and web sites.  I don't have the feel for it or I should say, a finish bow to go by.  However, it's awesome to have the support.  I have a member sending me a short string and hopefully, I haven't gone too far and passed my goal.  However if I did, some great advice I have already received, boards are cheap. ;)