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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Luc Gilbert on October 25, 2009, 02:03:31 am
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Hello
So I just finished my first self bow and I'm very happy with it. (will post pics when I can get them off my camera) But now I want to try to make an other. this next bow i want to make a long bow about 72 inches, but as narrow as possible. I like this look.
Now the store by my place has many many woods to choose from in board form, so I was thinking of choosing one of these and backing it with either bamboo or sinew. What wood do you think would allow me for the narrowest bow possible. I was thinking IPE, but I'm not 100% sure. If it is ipe, would it work well with sinew? i always see it with bamboo, but would rather try sinew first it would work.
I can post the link to the wood the store has to show what i can choose from, but not sure if that is aloud.
thank you for your help.
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A lot of guys make Ipe or bulletwood bows under an inch in width. Justin posted an Ipe D bow that was unbacked and about 3/4" wide. I would go with a bamboo backing rather than sinew.
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Luc
Posting a direct link is not allowed but you can mention the name of the store or if people want to know they can PM you
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thank you for the reply. Is the Specific gravity of the wood what determines how wide or narrow a bow will be? If this is the case I was thinking I would try some ebony. might be good, and look real good.
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Ipe makes a great selfbow. Bazillions of Amazon natives will attest to this..Since you have made just one self bow my advice is to make another..like a long slender Ipe bow ;)
Rich-
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is it possible to make an unbacked ipe bow from a board if the grain is good and straight with no run offs?
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Are you reading the replies?
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Yes I am reading the replies. That is why I'm going to use ipe. But I have never seen an un-backed ipe bow and I was not sure when Rich suggested I make a selfbow out of it if he knew I have only access to ipe boards and not staves. So just making sure I would be well off with jsut boards. :)
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http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,5313.0.html
That's the thread you need to look at.
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Thank you very much pat, that is almost exactly what i'm was looking for!
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http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,5313.0.html
That's the thread you need to look at.
I know I've said it before but By-Golly-Gee I sure like looking at that bow!!!! Still my favorite...
Nate Danforth
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Ipe or osage is the wood you need for such a narrow bow. If you want a long ELB, sinew won't work. The narrowest bow I've made was a maple backed osage, 1" at grip. 72" NTN, 45#. If you have the right piece of wood, a selfbow is fine, but if it was me, I'd back it with something, especially if it's a board.
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Here is a 1" wide Red Oak Board bow that I made. It is 64" long draws 41 lbs at 28". It has 1 5/8" string follow....not too bad in my book for the width and being a red oak board bow.....
And here is a narrow Ipe bow I made....not unbacked though.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,15163.0.html
Nate Danforth
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Luc I made several ELBs from one big hickory board, all three were about an inch wide by 72" long. I would not say they were the most efficient bows out there, but none broke. I really like that Red Oak ELB, I would never have thought you could make an ELB with red oak
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Great to hear that i might be able to make one from a more local wood like hickory or red oak. I think I shall practice with those since they are a lot cheaper then the ipe.
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why does everyone think ya need to back a board bow
i have made several without backing them.
grain is of utmost importance for a board bow in the first place
if one is picky enough,ya can find the right board and wont need to back it.
i would post pics of a few of them
but being the dumb ass that i can be i never back up my computer and lost over 1000 pics when my hard drive crashed
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why does everyone think ya need to back a board bow
i have made several without backing them.
grain is of utmost importance for a board bow in the first place
if one is picky enough,ya can find the right board and wont need to back it.
i would post pics of a few of them
but being the dumb ass that i can be i never back up my computer and lost over 1000 pics when my hard drive crashed
I'm with ya and that's why I posted mine. Some people tell newbs to back so that way they can get a bow in hand quicker. I on the other hand (being a newbie) feel that failing quickly will result in learning quickly. I think backing, for newbies, is a bandaid and just covers up poor tiller/grain selection/design etc.