Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: WVFishFearMe on October 21, 2009, 08:26:59 am
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I am struggling with using a quiver when hunting. Trouble with back and waist carries. Because they snag and can be noisy, I am down to carrying two or three arrows and shooting with arrows gripped with the bow. Anyone have a primitive fix?
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bow quiver?
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I turned a coyote hide into a back quiver that rides between the shoulders. It is very easy to grab arrows from and tends to sit right behind my head so it doesn't catch on a lot of brush. With the fur rolled in it adds just the right cushion to keep arrows from rattling.
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Thanks, StringMan -
Sounds like it is two straps, daypack-like. Sounds like a great idea, will try it out.
BTW- you also read my mind ... I'm out for a coyote for a quiver. Nicely done. 8)
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I have the same problem. I don't like a quiver on my board bow, i hunt with. But, you can't hardly carry a back quiver, along with some kind of seat to use while hunting. I have a great northern strap on bow quiver that i thought i might put on and carry my arrows to the woods, then, take it off when i get where i am going to hunt.
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I don't use back quivers for that very reason. I've had the damn things catch on all kinds of brush which tears up my feathers and make all kinds of noise. IF you're horseback on the open plains, then a back quiver works great. But the instant you get into the brush, they become a real problem. I carry 3 or 4 arrows in my bow hand with the points up. That way, when I walk thru the brush the feathers slide thru the brush without damage. I like having a quiver with me when I'm in a treestand, but that's about it.
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My back quiver I designed with a flattened oval mouth that has a string holding it flat. The string helps separate the fletching ends to some degree. I put only about 6 arrows in the quiver, each tip covered with a small triangular leather hood that keeps them from rattling and dulling up against each other. The hoods fall off inside the quiver when I pull an arrow out to use. All that keeps the rattling noise down. as far as snagging as I move, I have come to frequently slide my quiver from my back down under my arm when going through thick brush then back up onto my back when I get through it. All that said, it is definitely a conscious choice on my part to wear a back quiver.
I have thought about a NA style side quiver, made of hair on deer hide with the hair to the inside. The grain of the hair pointing down into the quiver. I am told the hair helps keep the arrows silent and in the quiver and the low slung side design is easier to control when moving through thick brush. I haven't tried this as of yet .
Kirby
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... I am told the hair helps keep the arrows silent and in the quiver ...
Kirby
All quivers I have made lately have fur lining around the opening and most often really think hair-on wildboar hide on the bottom.
They sure are quiet!
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the coyote quiver sounds like a real good idea, but lately for deer ive been carrying 3 arrows and thatgs it. i get off work after school and i dont feel like carrying much ill just take arrows and my bow, no quiver.
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I use a plains style quiver.. you can easily shift it to your side while hunting heavy brush by simply pulling the strap up... hardly ever snags up and is quiet to get arrows out and in.. has bear skin lining.. try one and i bet you will like how it rides on your lower back and seems to be a quiet way to carry lots of arrows.. some of the greatest hunters of all time used them for hundreds of years.. LOL.. there is a picture of my quiver on the cover of the latest PA magazine....Hawk
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I reworked my quiver to have two straps. It was much, much better. I see more good ideas on here and will do some schoolin'.
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I like a quiver that hangs at your side for hunting. Much better than the back quiver.
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There is a chapter on quivers in Traditional Bowyers Bible, I think vol. 2, by the late great Jay Massey. He hated most quivers too and settled on the Plains type which is the most adaptable. I made one from the pattern in the book (elk skin) and still use it. I have a Catquiver, 3Rivers bow quiver, and hip quiver somewhere gathering dust. I still cuss the plains quiver but it's better than the others. I would line it with fur next time.
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Hi,
I like the NA quiver and have used that kind for years now. No arrows banging around,I can see which arrow I want to take out of it by the nocks,you can put it in front of you,behind you or up under your arm pit. And you can grab it up and run like hell when you come across a big old boar you just walk into after looking for your blunt you were shooting at old trees with.
If you want the fletchs uncovered;
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Cromsbowman/P1010488.jpg)
If you want the fletchs covered;
(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Cromsbowman/013.jpg)
Thanks for your time.
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I'm with Hawkbow and Cromm on the Plains quiver - very versatile. Can guide it with a hand when going through heavy brush, easy access to arrows, can even where it as a back quiver if you desire. Plus mine's got a small bag attached for stuff like tabs, spare strings, wax, etc. It's overal my favorite style of quiver, hands down.
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I hate quivers. I have yet to find one that suits me. I have tried most all styles. I am a tall and wide, so my quiver snags on everything when walking through brush. All that said I tend to lean towards the plains style quiver or one that is similar to that style.
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When you guys use the Plains style quiver, does your feathers get matted down while laying on top of one another in the quiver? Wife has a soft leather coat that is old, and she doesn't wear any more, thought about trying to build one, myself. ;)
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i had a back quiver and didnt like it, it r4estricted my arm movement when shooting, pat made me a nice coydog quiver the hangs on my side and luv it.
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Put the seam on the top of the quiver and add a stiffener stick along that seam. This will allow the quiver to "purse" along the bottom allowing for more room for the arrows. A little matting of the feathers shouldn't hurt their flight if they normally fly well from the bow.
On Tim's(Woodstick) coyote quiver I put the seam on the bottom of the quiver because I wanted the hair to lay down and back(as it did on the coyote). For his I added extra leather inside over the stitching not only to make it "purse" correctly but also to protect the stitching from the sharp arrow heads.
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Bentstick81, Found the chapter on quivers by Jay Massey. Volume 2 of Traditional Bowyer's Bible, chap. 12, "Quivers and Other Gear". The pattern I used is on page 303. Like PatB said, you need a stiffener along one side which is shown in the plans. I used an arrow shaft. My fletches do get a little mangled in it but I use high banana cut feathers. Straight cut fletches would probably work better. BTW, Massey called the Plains quiver "Indian style". If you don't have the "Bible" series, get it. It's indispensable and I wouldn't be making bows if I hadn't picked it up.
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Check out the "How To" section here. There are a few plains type quivers to get some ideas from on there. Both Jackcrafty(Patrick) and Medicinewheel(Frank) have excellent build alongs and I'm sure others do to.
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I just got my boa quiver from 3rivers and I have to say that I like it a lot...doesn't move on the bow and it can hold up to 6 arrows...not that I need that many 8) 8)
-Ky
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I have the 4 arrow boa quiver and I love it. Very light. Dont even know its there. Not for target shooting but I like it more than other styles for hunting.
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Side stalker......
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I liked the feel and heft of a bow quiver on my glass longbow and recurve but hate the feel on a self bow. It adds too much physical weight and throws the balance off for me. I have tried back quivers and they are too noisy and unruly, a plains type doesn't feel right to me either. I do like the side stalker type for target shooting and a GFA type for hunting. The GFA type holds the arrows securely, makes them easy to pull an arrow when needed, will slip behind my back to get it out of the way and is easy to make from most bow type quivers. I have an old KwickyKwiver that I have added a parachute cord strap(like a GFA) for carrying and a quick disconnect bracket mounted on my tree stand for when I hunt from that stand.
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Most back quivers are made of the wrong material to be quiet, lined with fur or made with the hair on is quiet,
also it forces you to walk quietly, which is something that takes concentration,
the back quiver, if the design is right also allows you a place to carry survival components,
I always have a bushman located in a special pouch inside the quiver,
along with a few survival items in the pocket, so I don't have to have them sloshing around in my pockets,
fletching are duller colors, as a quiver full of bright arrows is like a flashlite in the woods (those colors are better for target or where concealment is not an issue)