Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: gmc on October 08, 2009, 08:15:12 pm
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I really struggled with some funky reflex off the fade on the bottom limb. It's always that one limb, right? It makes the brace look a little odd but this was about all that I could do with it. I'm pretty sure this is butternut hickory, very little heartwood from a quarter split that I cut back in the spring. The bow is 64'' NTN pulling 65 lbs. weighing 21 oz.. The bow is finished with amber shellac with a linen wrap handle. Nothing fancy at all but I like'em that way. Here's a few pictures.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/frontview.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/unbracedprofile.jpg)
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(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/Handlefront.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/handleback.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/tips.jpg)
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(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/brace.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/virtualtiller-Copy.jpg)
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A little flash jumped off the side of the wall but you get the picture. ;D
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh213/colevy/fulldraw.jpg)
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very nice bow good tiller!
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Looks great to me. Good job ;) God Bless
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That is a Damn good looking bow. It has much beauty in it's simplicity!!
Nate Danforth
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Well done! Jawge
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Sweet little bow!! Gotta love that hickory.
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This is a really fine bow. Bookmarked, too, for Oct Self BOM
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i love it. simple, sleek, and pretty. verry good work, i like simple bows alot.
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That is a thing of beauty. Ofcourse I am partial to Hickory. Regardless of what it's made of it is a work of art.
If you don't mind. What are the widths at the widest and narrowest points? Fades and Knocks.
Rob
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Thanks guys for the nice compliments.
I'm pulling this bow to 28'', forgot to post at the top.
Rob:
I don't mind at all. The bow is just under 1 3/4 at the fades with a straight taper to 7/16 at the tips.
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Love it reminds me of the old hickory bows that used to be sold :)
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That's a fine looking bow, very nice work.
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That is a nice bow. I really like your tiller. Hickory is an all around good bow wood. Tough to beat. Dean
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Very impressive bow with an excellent tiller! Doesn't look like it's taking any set whatsoever. Did you heat treat it, besides the reflex in the bottom limb maybe?
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nmice looking bow there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Perfect in every aspect!!
Did you use the Mass principle when making it?
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Simple and effective is the best in my opinion. I like the color of the finish and tiller look great! Good job man!!!
CHEERS!!!
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That's one I admire - well done!
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Thanks guys for the nice compliments.
I'm pulling this bow to 28'', forgot to post at the top.
Rob:
I don't mind at all. The bow is just under 1 3/4 at the fades with a straight taper to 7/16 at the tips.
Thanks for the info. Again, I love it!!!
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Thats one nice looking bow..
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Very elegant! Nice warm looking finish, and that tiller is one of those that makes me say "aahhhhh."
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Nice job. Good looking bow.
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Boy, you guys are too kind! Thanks again for all the nice compliments fellas.
Coyote:
This is my fourth selfbow so I'm still feeling my way around. I do recommend a good heat treat for Hickory, maybe even a couple during the tillering process but this stave had so much tension reflex off one limb that I struggled trying to keep a balance and end up with a decent draw-weight. I heated the lower limb quite a bit just off the handle trying to balance the limbs. That's all it got. I may regret not heat treating later on, but its a live and learn thing. Adding a heat treat session would have only raised the draw-weight a bit and require more wood removal. It just didn't happen with this one. For a low set Hickory bow, have you ever tried a 6.5% moisture content before you start? I think having a good understanding of the question could mean more than the answer.
Rob:
Sorry, the tips are 5/16. I could have side tillered those down a bit at the end but wasn't thinking. I will try to remember that on the next one.
Tbod:
I really don't know how to utilize Steve's MP, but I have been looking at it more as a reference when I'm done. My TB4 is loaned out right now so how'd I do? I did leave more meat in the handle area on this one with the tips a little wide, it may be a tad heavy.
Thanks again, guys. Greg
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I do like your bow a lot. Great finish and color. Simple is good.The handle wrap just looks right.
Chasing Crow
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I built a really nice little t/d hickory flatbow in 1997 while I lived in Kotzebue Alaska = low MC. Hunted back home in Ohio and killed a couple deer with it bout was only home for one week. Moved to Texas several years later Houston = high MC bow droped 15 lbs and took a set. Moved back to Alaska didn't shoot bow for several years set left bow gained ALL its former draw wt. Moral of story Hickory works great in dry controlled conditions not first choice for two week bear hunt in S.E. Alaska
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I'd used it as a reference to, thats the only way to use it I guess.
If you have a 8" handle and fade your bow should weigh 22 ounce, 6" handle and fade then 21 ounce, according to the mass principle.
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TBod:
I use a 1.5'' fade with a 4'' handle. Sounds like I might be a little heavy on this one. Thanks for the response.
Granite Mtn:
It looks like your having fun in the photo. Bear hunting with a bow seems like the perfect test for a mans equipment and skills to use it.
I haven't completely made my mind up on Hickory yet. I haven't worked with it long enough to really draw any conclusions but I agree, climate is everything using the wood. The high tension properties of Hickory are appealing but its appetite for moisture is not. I currently have other woods to work on but thought I'd stay with Hickory long enough to understand it a little better. I do have some Ash that I can't seem to bring myself around to with some Osage waiting for the skill level to come up a bit before I start looking for growth rings.
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1.5 fade and 4 handle means 7" handle and fade right?
21.5 ounce by Mass principle you are 0,5 ounce under if your bow weighs 21.
Thats perfect!
I don't think the Mass principle is totally bulletproof, It's not like Einsteins formula, but interresting. The chronograph should be a more precise evidence of bows features.
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I was not Knocking Hickory at all just agreeing bout the moisture thing. Looks like your skill level is more than ready for osage, I consider osage far easier to get a high quality selfbow from than hickory. I would just go for it. Ps that is not me in the photo, that is Big Trey out of Lake Jackson Texas.
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I should clarify the LEGENDARY big Trey of Lake Jackson Texas.