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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: roofus on October 07, 2009, 12:20:43 pm

Title: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 07, 2009, 12:20:43 pm

I can get a couple of good chunks of Osage for pretty cheap. These are very straight grained demensional boards. Not staves.
They are right at 3' long each. Do you think I can joint them in the middle an glue on a handle riser and back it with Hickory and end up with a good bow?

Rob

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: RyanY on October 07, 2009, 12:32:25 pm

Yes.

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 07, 2009, 12:33:36 pm

Easy enough. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Rob

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: RyanY on October 07, 2009, 12:46:58 pm

I saw a piece of osage at the lumber mill that I go to and thought the same thing. I didn't do it though because I have no experience in splicing. Good luck.

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 07, 2009, 12:49:49 pm

Splicing is no biggie. PM me and I'll send you a link. I think I can do that right?

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 07, 2009, 12:58:59 pm

Here is that link. If this is wrong to do please let me know.

http://www.auf.asn.au/scratchbuilder/joints.html#joints (http://www.auf.asn.au/scratchbuilder/joints.html#joints)

Rob

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 08, 2009, 01:39:46 am

I got two nice chunks the shortest being 36" the longer over 45". I gave $9 for the 45" and $7 for the 36" both 3/4
I was able to saw two 2" wide pieces out of the 36" piece. I spliced them and glued up the riser. osage/walnut/cedar/walnut/maple.
I'll post some pics if you're interested. After the glue dries.

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: zeNBowyer on October 08, 2009, 01:50:15 am

Sounds  like  a  2-piece TD  bow  to  me:)

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 08, 2009, 06:24:03 pm

Yup. Minus the take down part.

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: Justin Snyder on October 08, 2009, 07:20:45 pm

Sounds like you got it figured out.

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 08, 2009, 10:22:45 pm

I don't know about that. But I have a plan. I'll document the process so if it is a success I can repeat it and share it.
I appreciate everyone's input and advise! This site rules ;D

Rob

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: Shadow Walker on October 11, 2009, 07:07:09 pm

the april/may 2009 edition of PA has an article on splicing that is quite informative.Page 30. It shows different methods for splicing at the handle fort maximum strenght.

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 11, 2009, 10:29:06 pm

Thanks. I have already made the splice. I did the v cut method. It is a very strong joint along with the handle riser glued up. I don't anticipate any issues.
I did run into a tiny little knot, but I don't think it goes very deep.
I'll be posting some pics soon. Thanks again, I really appreciate the help!!!!!!!

Rob

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: Eric Krewson on October 12, 2009, 10:02:36 am

Don't think a V cut is the proper splice for a bow, you need a fish tail or a Z splice. The easiest way is to draw the splice on a piece of paper, cut the pattern out and glue it on your wood with Elmer's glue. Line the pattern up with a center line on your bow and cut your splice.

In the picture I am adding a new limb to the good half of a broken bow.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/limbreplacement3.jpg)

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: Dano on October 12, 2009, 11:47:58 am

The V or W splice is a good splice, just have to makes sure the fingers aren't too wide. The less end grain the better.

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 12, 2009, 07:21:36 pm

These are boards not from a stave. I did a V splice and glued up the handle risers. If it breaks anywhere it will bevwhere I mess up tillering in the limbs. That joint will hold a truck. I am also backing it with Hickory.
My original question was really to find out if this was acceptible primitive / traditional practice.
I finally bought volume 1  of Traditional Bowyer's Bible. Page 208 showes the joint I used at the top. So I don't suppose I'm breaking any rules.

Rob

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: Dano on October 12, 2009, 11:10:34 pm

RULES!!!  ::)

Title: Re: Too short Osage
Post by: roofus on October 13, 2009, 12:59:28 am

Yup. I live on both sides of that fence.
I believe in solid rules with solid experience to back them up. However, I strongly believe if we blindly follow the rules we can really never move forward.
So I like to push it to the limit and beyond. POP!!!!! CRACK!!!! "well that didn't work. Next.

Rob

Title: Re: Too short Osage Updated Pics
Post by: roofus on October 14, 2009, 05:57:50 pm

Here are some progress pics.

Rob

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