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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Parnell on October 01, 2009, 01:52:16 pm

Title: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: Parnell on October 01, 2009, 01:52:16 pm

Ok - I've pretty much completed reading TBB3.  Been trying to figure out which bow is on the front - in the first two it's much more clear.  What is that one?  Sudbury?   ???

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: uwe on October 01, 2009, 01:58:54 pm

Its an Neolithic Elmbow. I would say Holmegaard.
Sudbury Bow is 17th cent.
Regards Uwe

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: Parnell on October 01, 2009, 02:09:38 pm

Right - thanks, that'd been bothering me.  8)

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: TBod on October 01, 2009, 02:53:47 pm

Tiller looks like an ellipse to me on that one. Really a Holmegard?

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: PatM on October 01, 2009, 09:29:03 pm

It would just be typical Paul Comstock style modified Meare Heath.

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: Parnell on October 02, 2009, 02:15:37 pm

It does have a elliptical flat-bow tiller.  It does look like a Meare Heathe after reviewing books. Thanks.  :)

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: radius on October 02, 2009, 02:40:53 pm

is that the one that Dennis LaVarenne criticized so harshly in his paper on "tillering the holmegaard bow?"

and hey parnell, if you still have that broken bow, check the back.  I found that where mine cracked was where the pith rays intersected the back.   White oak is great, but the limbs gotta be at least 1.75" wide and bend for a decent length...

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: Parnell on October 02, 2009, 02:47:22 pm

I still have it - out by the firepit.  I'll have a look later.  Not sure about the article - I remember reading the link you posted, but didn't put it together.  I'll go back and look for it.

 8)

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: uwe on October 05, 2009, 02:19:13 pm

Hmmmh, you think M.H. bow?Because of the limbs are running parallel down to the deeper and slim tip- section? The more I`m looking at that bow I see that even the fadeout section tapers for the grip.
So it seems to be a "quickshot" of mine. Sorry, but a few eyes more see sometimes a bit more!
Regards Uwe
 :( ???

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: Parnell on October 05, 2009, 03:23:11 pm

I don't think it is one thing in particular.  It's obviously a flatbow.  On p.90 of TBB2 shows three European bows.  The center bow denoted as 'ancient european flatbow' looks the most similar to that on the cover of TBB3.  The cover bow looks to have tips left thicker but narrowed alike the Holmegaard idea.  I think it is a hybrid.

I've been wondering, why is it that flatbows I see regarded as North American Flatbows when they were used in ancient times in Europe as well?

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: uwe on October 06, 2009, 02:29:59 pm

A little more "frontpic." would have been helpful. Isn`t there a chance to ask "Horsefeather Ranch" for help?
American flatbow? Maybe the Americans did only know of ELB existence? And most of activities in archery had been done in GB?
The Americans discovered the flatbow again?
Regards Uwe

Title: Re: Bow on TBB3?
Post by: Parnell on October 06, 2009, 10:09:02 pm

Hey Uwe,

 Some good thinking.  I reviewed some of the reading and I think that what your saying about the whole flatbow idea is correct.  It's more of a 'frame of reference' with 20th century bowmaking.  The bow on the front, still?  Maybe I should contact horsefeathers ranch...