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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: MaceG on September 05, 2009, 12:36:31 am

Title: Marking tillering board...
Post by: MaceG on September 05, 2009, 12:36:31 am
When marking your tillering board, you measure from the back of the bow, right?
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: kylerprochaska on September 05, 2009, 12:40:30 am
I measured mine from where the belly of the handle sits...your draw length is measured from the belly of the handle...i think...

-Ky
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: HoBow on September 05, 2009, 07:00:53 am
I measure from the back. Handle sizes can change depth depending on how you make it, while the back is the constant variable. I also measure brace height from the back. 
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: George Tsoukalas on September 05, 2009, 10:21:27 am
Most selfbowyers measure to the back  of the bow  so  that's what I  do on  my rope and pulley. My t stick broke about 18 years ago. Rope and pulleys are better for the bow and the bowyer and are easier to make. Jawge
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: MaceG on September 05, 2009, 11:53:14 am
Thanks guys. Just wanted to make sure.
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: Pat B on September 05, 2009, 12:29:26 pm
You measure your draw length from the back of the bow.   Like George said a tiller tree is a lot safer to use for the builder and the bow. Holding a wood bow at any draw length for more than a few seconds can be detrimental to the bow...especially while you are tillering. With the tiller tree you can not only exercise the bow between wood removals but also stand back to get a better view of the overall bow without over stressing it or without holding it statically while viewing it.
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: radius on September 05, 2009, 01:37:19 pm
on my tiller tree, my marks come from the belly, because i'm always using staves of different thicknesses.  So I just do the math every time.  Easy peasy.  If the stave is 1" thick, like the white oak holmegaards i'm building now, then when i pull it to 23" i know it's 24".  If the stave is 1.5, and i draw it to 22.5", then i know it's 24".   No problem.  Seemed to make more sense while i was making it to measure off the belly.
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: medicinewheel on September 05, 2009, 02:06:01 pm
on my tiller tree, my marks come from the belly, because i'm always using staves of different thicknesses.  So I just do the math every time.  Easy peasy.  If the stave is 1" thick, like the white oak holmegaards i'm building now, then when i pull it to 23" i know it's 24".  If the stave is 1.5, and i draw it to 22.5", then i know it's 24".   No problem.  Seemed to make more sense while i was making it to measure off the belly.
That's how I do it, too: from the belly side of the handle PLUS the thickness of the handle.
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: radius on September 05, 2009, 02:06:44 pm
do it any other way and you're cracked
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: George Tsoukalas on September 05, 2009, 10:30:38 pm
So what do you do if you stave is 3/4 inch thick,  1 3/8 inches thick or some other odd measurement? I actually don't mark my t tree but run a strip of masking down and mark it off. That way I can adjust of the odd measurements my bows take almost invariably. :) jawge
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: radius on September 06, 2009, 02:45:22 pm
i just don't sweat the 1/4 inch, Jawge...gotta be flexible and relaxed about things like this
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: Del the cat on September 06, 2009, 04:18:20 pm
I measure from the back.
My rule is screwed to the wall with slots so that I can adjust it for different bows, but I usually just spot check it and make a mental note of the difference.
Suplementary question for a bonus point...if you are tilling to 28" how far do you come back to allow a safety factor, for different strings etc?
I usually go back to 29, maybe even 30 brifly, if I intend shortening increasing the BH at all.
Dell
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: Pat B on September 06, 2009, 04:33:20 pm
It depends on the length of the bow but generally an inch past the intended full draw.
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: Barrage on September 06, 2009, 06:51:38 pm
I always measure from the belly myself.  I figure I draw from the belly side of the handle, so might as well measure from there...
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: sailordad on September 06, 2009, 07:26:58 pm
I always measure from the belly myself.  I figure I draw from the belly side of the handle, so might as well measure from there...

ok,  but draw length is actually the drawn length of the arrow,so measuring from the belly would mean you would have short(too short) arrows.
if you measure from the bqck of the bow then ya know how long your arrow should be
Title: Re: Marking tillering board...
Post by: George Tsoukalas on September 06, 2009, 08:14:47 pm
radius, flexible? Me? LOL. Sure. I can be flexible. :)Jawge