Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: radius on August 05, 2009, 12:41:45 am
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hey, i'm thinking about making a setback-handle bow, by steaming or dry heat, with yew...anybody wanna show off theirs so i can copy????
haha
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??? What do u mean by setback-handles?
Ky
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Here are some pics from someplace on the net of two different continental style (late Medieval I believe) Yew bows; this style bow is called the Bourgogne Bow.
Have fun copying! ;D ;D ;D
Ps:The Antler tips are from the bow in the first picture.
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??? What do u mean by setback-handles?
The handle is set back, or recurved from the back of the bow.
IMO a bow like the pictured Bourgogne Bow would be called 'double-curved' for the setback handle plus the recurved tips.
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Got no pictures but them are some beautiful bows and tips. :)
Pappy
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Very nice bows Frank. I've always refered to these types as "gull wing" Hear is one of mine. I've done a couple of these and not sure that I care for the design. Though I like the looks, I've found that the handle being set back tends to give more wrist slap unless braced higher.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_0038.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_0079.jpg)
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(These bows pictured are museum pieces just to make sure).
Isn't 'gull-winged' a set-back handle with a deflex limb as found in the Apache bows??
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Yes Frank that would be more accurate. I just call these Gull wing as a general reference
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Gull Winged.......you mean like these......
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Here's one that has the handle setback a bit. I built it a couple months ago with an assist from Mother Nature. Both the handle and bottom limb were already shaped this way. I heat bent the top limb to match the bottom.
63" nock to nock. 48# @ 28." I've always called this my gull wing bow.....
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hojo that sure is a purty stick ya got,me likey
but i do believe the pics eld posted are more acurate to a gull wing bow,and yours would be a set back handle
i could be wrong though,let me ask my wife lol shhhhhh dont tell her i said that
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i love the setback/recurve, whatever you call it. I built a couple laminated bows like that last year, four i think, of osage, hickory, and rosewood. All good bows.
I have a yew branch about 70" long with a naturally setback handle...we'll see how the tips wind up!
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El D, I would call the Cupid bow double-curved, the Lakota bow I would call gull-winged! (Both have set-back handles, of course!)
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Hojo, that bow is really nice; what wood??
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Several native bows with set-back handles.
Donnie
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Sailordad and Medicinewheel--thanks for the compliments. The bow is from an osage stave that I wasn't too sure about when I started. It was pretty narrow and didn't have much wood at the handle area. It has some checks in the back near the curved tips that I wrapped with super-glue soaked upholstery thread; it seems to be working. The bow is about 1 1/4" wide to just past midlimb and then tapers to 3/8" at the tips.
These setback bows on this thread---gull wing or otherwise---sure are pleasing to the eye!
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which meuseum are the bowsin thefirst picture from and does anyone have any info on the bow in the first picture,particularly the third bow from the top,the one with the red velvet covered handle.I would appericiate any info on that bow please.
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I thought I found the pics at the Society Of Archer-Antiquaries homepage; there is a thread on the Burgundy (Bourgogne) Bow but no pics.
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thanks guys...
i started working out that big branch last night...that wood is nowhere near ready, but it'll go faster in smaller dimension, huh?
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I suppose the handles are set back in this draft tamerisk basket bow and bamboo lam bundle bow.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/wolfsirebella/basketbow.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/wolfsirebella/100_0296.jpg)
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which meuseum are the bowsin thefirst picture from and does anyone have any info on the bow in the first picture,particularly the third bow from the top,the one with the red velvet covered handle.I would appericiate any info on that bow please.
Hey shikari, I found it: These bows are visible in the musée de l'archerie in Crepy en Valois north east of Paris.
There is info on the above mentioned website at:
http://www.societyofarcher-antiquaries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136
and
http://www.societyofarcher-antiquaries.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109
There are also people you may want to contact about it!
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Thanks medicinewheel,my reason for asking was Because I think i have a duplicate of that bow,the bow is really old was hanging on a set of racks with a deer tag dated 1955 and there are no makers marks or any numbers on the bow,the handle is wrapped in cotton cord and then was wrapped in burgundy colour felt or whatever its called,it draws 90 #@28,yes I strung it up and shot it but don't anymore when i realised how old it is.Noone has any info on the bow or maker unfortunately.I will take some picks and post them.