Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: FVR on June 28, 2009, 08:03:32 pm

Title: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: FVR on June 28, 2009, 08:03:32 pm
45" osage crooked sinew backed ponybow.  3 layers deer leg, 1 layer deer back and then a limb wrap.

Bow is pulling 65lbs at 22.5".

Full draw:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-046S.jpg)

Belly up strung, just a little twist:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-047S.jpg)

Back up, yup, twisted:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-052S.jpg)

Handle:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-049S.jpg)

Front view:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-048S.jpg)

Side view:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-051S.jpg)

Bows first shot from 20yds was high in the lung, the next six were in the kill zone.  Will be using for this years hog and deer season.


Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: adb on June 28, 2009, 08:11:15 pm
Very nice work!! Do you think you could post a full draw pic from a side view?
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: sulphur on June 28, 2009, 10:20:49 pm
thats one cool short bow.  if not to much trouble could we get a side view of the unbraced profile.  just wondering how you did your cuz i got lots of short osage and 4 or 5 hanks of sinew.
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: venisonburger on June 28, 2009, 10:39:21 pm
Thats pretty cool, I've never seen the limb wrap like that, is it just to keep the layers down?
I like it.
VB
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: FVR on June 28, 2009, 10:47:30 pm
Thanks.

Here is a pic of me drawing the bow from the side, not a good pic.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-053S.jpg)

So, I did this and overdrew the bow a half inch.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-054S.jpg)


You can see how the limbs twist when I draw the bow.



Here is one side:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-056S.jpg)

Here is the other side:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/FrankV/MVC-055S.jpg)
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Aosda on June 28, 2009, 11:19:33 pm
Nice job on that shorty.  I see ya got a second one there for a matched pair ;D .  Did you wrap around the entire limb, meaning back and belly?
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Pat B on June 28, 2009, 11:31:26 pm
Cool little bow. Very impressive!   
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: FVR on June 28, 2009, 11:35:07 pm
Thanks.

Yes, I wrapped all the way around the limb.  I started doing this years ago when I made a 48" shorty (not the one in the avatar) and when the sinew dried it caused stress cracks lengthways up the limb.

I wrapped the sinew around the limbs to keep the bow together and have just kept doing it on my short bows.  Well, all except the elm recurve but that's another story.


That second stave is a 43 incher.  I will be pushing the envelope on that one.  First I need to sinew the 58" recurve.  Looks like I'm going to be hitting the processor this coming deer season.
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: ravenbeak on June 28, 2009, 11:40:22 pm
great little bow,  with a punch

i've seen wrappings done on horn bows,  i believe it is to minimize collateral damage in the event of implosion..   nothing wrong with playing it safe.

how wide are the limbs and nocks?

Jamie

Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: FVR on June 29, 2009, 12:20:47 am
I've always made my bows nock heavy.  Thes nocks are around 7/8" wide and the widest part of the widest limb is 1 1/4" wide.  I have been lectured to at many shoots on how I should thin out my limb tips as osage can handle it.  It will make my bows so much faster.  I just smile, I know what thinning the limb tips will do, but it's not my style.  Like my limbs, they are never the exact same dimensions.

Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Pappy on June 29, 2009, 06:22:10 am
Cool little bow,Lots of bend in that one.Nice job. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: OldBow on June 29, 2009, 11:55:10 am
I'm a real fan of short bows. This one is a winner. Bookmarked, too, for June self BOM fun
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Hillbilly on June 29, 2009, 08:28:51 pm
That's a wicked looking little bow. Should be great for hunting in the brush, and you've got enough poundage to make up for the short draw. You did a fine job on that one.
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: ballista on June 29, 2009, 10:57:30 pm
  awesome looking bow! i like that reflex, were you ar a rendevous in wisconsin last year by chance?
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 30, 2009, 09:19:47 am
Looks great! Well done. Jawge
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: uwe on June 30, 2009, 01:13:50 pm
Yes, nice little bow! Did you wrap it to my advice?
Regards Uwe
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: FVR on June 30, 2009, 09:42:24 pm
Ballista,

That was not me, wish it was........I have not made a rendezvous in years.

Jawge, Thanks.

Uwe, I've been wrapping my little osage bows for years.  I tried Laubin's intestine idea and did not like it, I'm not much on snake skins, so my first wrap around the limb job was just for decoration.  Then a few bows later I had to due to verticle stress cracks up the limb, after that I just do it to all my pony bows or bows that I have alot of sinew on.  Did it to a 58" flatbow, that was alot of wrapping.
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Adam Keiper on July 01, 2009, 10:58:13 am
Man, that is short.  I remember you making short bows years ago over on the Stickbow site.  Good to see you still at it.  That one's almost sized for concealed carry.   ;D
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Postman on July 01, 2009, 04:57:30 pm
That's an awesome little bow  - the tiller tree pic is insane......
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Bent Rig on July 01, 2009, 10:03:29 pm
Nice bow ! just wonderin if this bow was made for someone else ? Because from the full draw pics , your not even close to any anchor point ? How does a bow of this length & poudage hold up to all that stress being so short ? One last thing h ;Dow is the handshock ? ;D
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: FVR on July 01, 2009, 10:54:58 pm
Bow was made for me.  Short bows require short draw lengths.  Good rule is to draw a selfbow half it's length, so a 45" bow should draw 22.5".  So I adjust my anchor when shooting short bows.  Instead of anchoring at the corner of my mouth, I anchor at the rear knuckle of my right thumb.  My normal draw length is 27/28 inches, so shooting a bow this short adjustments have to be made.

You can't compare the draw on the tillering tree to me drawing the bow.  First, the darn thing is pretty heavy, well real heavy.  I had to hurry the wife to finish taking the pic as I could only keep it at my full draw for a few seconds.  And the weight will only go up.

I have found that if I use 4 layers of sinew, then wrap the limbs, then re-tiller, I can make these osage bows bendy.  Not so much with elm, but osage is awsome.  As far as hand shock, there is none.  I have however, if you noticed, braced the bow a little more than normal.  I do this because I hate hitting my arm.

Also, my draw will vary depending on how far away the target is.  I've shot the bow out to 20 yards with the anchor you see.  If I go out to 30 yards for a 3D shoot, I'll just sneak the draw back a little bit.
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: Barrage on July 01, 2009, 11:40:50 pm
Very nice little bow - I like those little shorties...
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: islandpiper on July 02, 2009, 11:08:53 pm
Great bow.   Great pics.   I like that "vise on the dining room table" idea.   That would be handy for a lot of things.  Not sure my wife would agree.   :) :)

Piper
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: stickbender on July 03, 2009, 01:21:21 am

     man FVR, that is slicker than snot on a door knob!  :o That is cool little bow.  8) Is it fast? :)

                                                              Wayne
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: FVR on July 03, 2009, 09:23:09 am
It's pretty fast.

The vise, LOL..........the base of the vise is my recurve form.  Turn it sideways and I can bend wood.

Always, always, put a cloth down under the vise when I put it on the table.  I'm not crazy!

Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: PeteC on July 03, 2009, 11:22:44 pm
That's a neat little bow!!Good job! I can't see how you fella's shoot with a short draw.I just can't achieve the accuracy I want unless I "get it all". ;D God Bless
Title: Re: 45" Osage sinew backed ponybow.
Post by: 1776J on December 17, 2010, 12:52:49 am
Any updates on this bow?
How's it holding up?
Any hunting with it by chance?
 :)