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Title: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on March 29, 2009, 01:11:56 pm
Here's something I've been working on. I had a fellow from the leatherwall approach me about making him a Deerslayer type recurve. This is my first attempt at such a bow and I'm pretty happy with the outcome. Its not a exact replica since I really had nothing to go on other than some pictures I found on the Internet, I will make a few changes on the next one, but this one shoots real nice. Its 64" ntn Hickory backed black locust core with a heat tempered hop hornbeam belly. 55#@28" Some may think this is a odd combination of woods, but it is what I had on hand. I still need to add some tip over lays of locust and finish shaping the tips and brush nocks. I'm going to add a built up shelf out of leather as was done on the originals and cover it with a leather grip once the finish is applied.

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Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: whitewoodshunter on March 29, 2009, 03:35:54 pm
Looks good to me. Have you shot it yet?
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Pat B on March 29, 2009, 03:41:39 pm
Sweet looking bow Ryan. Looking forward to braced and full draw pics. I love the looks and effectiveness of the brush nocks. I've been meaning to try them.  Chris Cade does a beautiful job with them.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: nickf on March 29, 2009, 05:01:47 pm
looking really Good ryano! Great use of native woods too! I really love them recurves with brushnocks, awesome!
Looking forward to more pics  O:)

Nick
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on March 29, 2009, 05:08:50 pm
that looks really cool Ryan, i am excited to see it finished
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: FlintWalker on March 29, 2009, 09:45:29 pm
I really like the looks of that one!   I can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Ryano on March 29, 2009, 09:52:39 pm
Thanks Guys.  ;D
Its already been shot quite a bit, just trying to decide exactly how to finish her up.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Timo on March 29, 2009, 09:59:36 pm
Nice looking job Ryan! I'd think just a nice set of skins on the back and finish? Hard to get a good dye job on hickory, as far as blending in colors. The wood combos will give it a nice contast I would think.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: cracker on March 29, 2009, 10:07:06 pm
Looks interesting.Good looking piece of work.Ron
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: OldBow on March 29, 2009, 10:31:24 pm
Serious candidate for April LBOM
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: hawkbow on March 29, 2009, 10:36:41 pm
That is one cool bow brother, looks like a whitetail slayer for sure... Hawk a/ho
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 29, 2009, 11:49:08 pm
Looks great, Ryan. Jawge
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Pennhawk on March 30, 2009, 01:01:07 am
WOW, I like those brush nocks. The winds of change are blowing off the great lake.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Sidewinder on March 30, 2009, 03:51:52 am
I love the combination and the execution is suberb,     Danny
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Pappy on March 30, 2009, 07:37:56 am
Looks great to me,Can't wait to see it finished up. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: GregB on March 30, 2009, 08:24:28 am
Looks good at this point, and I'm sure will look great when finished! Looking forward to the final pic's!
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Ryano on March 30, 2009, 10:33:29 am
Timo, I don't really have any skins on hand I want to give up right now. I'll have to see what I can come up with.
Thanks for all the nice coments guys....
Chris, winds of change? lol. I always make a couple of hickory backed bows a year....gotta mix it up once in a while to keep things interesting.  :)
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Ryano on April 21, 2009, 01:29:58 pm
Finished pictures of this bow to come soon.... ;D
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: venisonburger on April 21, 2009, 02:12:58 pm
She's a beauty, nice curves.
VB
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Ryano on April 21, 2009, 02:16:23 pm
Thanks VB. I added some cherry bark to the back and a rattan handle wrap and built up leather shelf.

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Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Ryano on April 21, 2009, 02:17:49 pm
More pictures.....

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Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve
Post by: Ryano on April 21, 2009, 02:18:28 pm
Money shot.  ;D

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Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: medicinewheel on April 21, 2009, 02:45:11 pm
Very nice bow!
Love the cherry bark.
And the whole reat of it...
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: bearbowman on April 21, 2009, 02:49:49 pm
That is a beauty Ryan. You are a bow making machine.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Barrage on April 21, 2009, 03:03:13 pm
Nice bow Ryan.  Really like that backing and the Grumley tips.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Kent D. on April 21, 2009, 03:27:43 pm
That is a beauty.  Excellent work.   ;)
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: coyote pup on April 21, 2009, 03:57:44 pm
Looks fast!

Out of curiosity, what is the rattan and where do you get it?
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: TRACY on April 21, 2009, 04:03:32 pm
That would be hard to part with, great looking bow.

Tracy
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on April 21, 2009, 04:15:32 pm
Thanks everyone.
coyote, its the stuff they use for old style woven chairs and baskets and stuff.  It comes in all diferant sizes.

http://www.caningshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CC&Category_Code=CHR-A&Product_Count=0
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Buffalogobbler on April 21, 2009, 04:36:39 pm
Beautiful Bow Ryan!!! :o
I love the Tips!
Kevin
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Okie on April 21, 2009, 04:52:27 pm
Super job, Ryan. Outstanding bow.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Christophero on April 21, 2009, 06:50:45 pm
Oh man, that is a beaut.
Now I've got to ask a couple of questions:
1.  you said last month that you had already shot it quite, yet, it looked as if it had never been drawn back as straight as it was unstrung.
2.  the belly lam was toasted
3.  HOW DID YOU DO THAT????
         Was the belly lam toasted before glue up and about the lack of set I am totally cornfused!?
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Timo on April 21, 2009, 07:14:23 pm
Looks real nice Ryan, Good contrast of colors working and blending,tip work is quality.Never was a fan of the rattan handle wraps,but you made that one look good.Tiller looks spot.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: The Burnt Hill Archer on April 21, 2009, 07:25:35 pm
very nice Ryan. ive always admired these bows. i like the back too...

Phil
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on April 21, 2009, 07:27:47 pm
Thanks for the nice words fella's.

Christophero, it was glued up with reflex much of which it lost so the limbs stand pretty straight now. If I were to do it again with the same wood combo's I'd of made inner limbs a touch wider which would have helped it hold more of the reflex. The hhb was heat treated after initial glue up and tillering to brace height. It is all glued up with urac 185 glue which heat doesn't effect once its cured. So you see the bow really has taken some set, it just doesn't follow the string.  :)

Thanks Timo. I really like the rattan grip. It's becoming a favorite of mine. It gives a good positive grip and is more weather and wear resistant than leather. I do tend to like the narrower stuff better than the wide stuff. It conforms to the shape of the handle better.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Pennhawk on April 21, 2009, 08:22:25 pm
WOW! Ryan, that baby is sure beautiful I hope you're bringing it along friday. You must have a ton of time in it? how far will it draw? Is it already spoken for? Maybe the nicest lam bow I've seen.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on April 21, 2009, 09:45:03 pm
Thanks Chris. I'm glad you like it. I do have a lot of time in it. Its not really spoken for. It's only been drawn to 28" on the tillering rack and shot in at my 27" Draw. I'll bring it to hawkeye so you lay your grubby mitts on it.  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: FlintWalker on April 21, 2009, 10:28:01 pm
Ohhh Man!  That's a nice 'un ;D
  I hope you still have it when you get to Pappys.  Remember...I can shoot with either hand 8)
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: DCM on April 22, 2009, 09:07:52 am
I wanna see it at Pappy's too!

Nice compromise between the orig Grumley brush nocks which were excessively massive in my estimation versus Marc's super skinny speed recurves.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Bear on April 22, 2009, 09:26:51 am
That really is pretty. I love the backing. Not sure if I've ever seen cherry bark backing in person. I know it's used a lot. Certainly is a nice contrast and natural look.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 22, 2009, 09:31:37 am
That is a beaut Ryan
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: DanaM on April 22, 2009, 10:15:39 am
Very nice Ryan and something you don't see very often with the brush nocks.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on April 22, 2009, 10:16:33 am
Thanks guys.  ;D  I'm planning on bringing it to the classic so ya'll can check it out.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Pappy on April 22, 2009, 11:00:38 am
Beautiful,Can't wait to see it.
    Pappy
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: OldBow on April 22, 2009, 11:49:53 am
Great pictures underscoring the fact that this is a Great Bow. A worthy candidate for April Laminated Bow of the Month
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 22, 2009, 12:45:31 pm
Nice bow Ryan, glad to see you playing with a few laminates.  ;)
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: brownhillboy on April 22, 2009, 01:32:24 pm
VERY NICE!!  Super looking bow and some incredible craftsmanship!  Nice job.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on April 22, 2009, 07:41:43 pm
Thanks Guys. The pictures aren't really that great its hard to get good lighting in our house, but it was raining outside so I opted to stay in out of the rain.  ;D
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: robbsbass on April 23, 2009, 11:49:07 pm
Ryan  you have done it again, but that is what I expect when I see your bows, You are an exceptional craftsman, and I really don't know where to start complamenting you on such a beautiful bow.

    Robb
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: AKAPK on April 24, 2009, 12:07:06 am
Ryan, that is knarly (old word same meaning,good) look good to me. :)
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: bigcountry on April 24, 2009, 12:16:22 am
That is close to being one of the finest bows I have seen on here.  Looks great to me. 
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: stallion27 on April 24, 2009, 12:20:11 am
Those tips are sweet man. Very nice work!
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on April 24, 2009, 09:10:08 am
Thanks so much for the kind words fella's.  :)
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Keenan on April 24, 2009, 12:00:44 pm
 Oh My,That came out sweet Ryan. Love the color contrast and some cool looking brush guards as well. Do you think the brush guards ad any noticeable hand shock or affect the shooting with the extra tip weight? Looks like a great shooter and have thought about doing some underlays by the tips but could never get myself to try it.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on April 24, 2009, 02:36:02 pm
Thanks Keenan. It has no noticable hand shock. At least not to me. There's really not much to them. I'm sure as narrow as the tips are they are probably still lighter than some bows with wider tips are. I'm going to shoot it some more this weekend at hawkeye. I'll let you know what I think after that.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: robbsbass on May 19, 2009, 12:08:57 pm
Ryano that is one of the nicest bows I think that you have made, be proud. Sorry I haven't been on line for a while but I have been in and out of hospital again.

    Robb
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: DirtyDan on May 19, 2009, 05:16:19 pm
I quit!!!  Seriously, excellent bow as always, Ryan.  You da' MAN!

Dan
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: 1/2primitive on May 20, 2009, 12:22:42 am
I've been away from here for a little too long.
What a great few bows to come back to, yours and Manny's 'Monster'. :)

That is quite a stunning bow, the Cherry bark adds a neat element to it.
Your recurves never fail to make my jaw drop. ;)
     Sean
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on May 20, 2009, 08:08:30 am
Thanks for the complements guys !  :)
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Kent D. on May 20, 2009, 03:54:10 pm
Love it.  Excellent work.
Title: Re: Hickory,black locust, hophornbeam, Deerslayer based recurve (new pics added)
Post by: Ryano on May 21, 2009, 07:55:39 am
Thanks Burnie.