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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: cracker on January 24, 2009, 07:13:37 pm

Title: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 24, 2009, 07:13:37 pm
Hey fellers
     I found these rocks sticking out of a ditch bankhttp://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k383/ronniecoursey/rocks/100_0323.jpg on a road cut just north of Dothan AL. The one in the photos was sticking out of the bank. There are others that were buried in white clay that was about the consistency of cold window putty the closer you got to the rock the harder the clay became until it turned into rock. The stuff seems to flake easily it has a rusty sheen as if it were dipped in rusty water and has a consistency about half way between ceramic and glass. Can anyone tell me anything about it?
Thanks Ronnie 
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k383/ronniecoursey/rocks/100_0323.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k383/ronniecoursey/rocks/100_0324.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k383/ronniecoursey/rocks/100_0325.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k383/ronniecoursey/rocks/100_0326.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k383/ronniecoursey/rocks/100_0328.jpg
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k383/ronniecoursey/rocks/100_0330.jpg
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: knap_123 on January 24, 2009, 07:47:02 pm
thats coastal plain chert, just got back with a load yesterday.  you might want to heat that at about 475
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 24, 2009, 07:49:22 pm
Thanks Knapp.Ron
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: DanaM on January 24, 2009, 08:00:56 pm
Ronnie just send that up north to me ok ;) :) I envy the hell out of you guys that have access to good rock.
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cowboy on January 24, 2009, 09:52:03 pm
That's what I was thinking Ronnie - looked just like the stuff that Knap sent to me. Looks like good stuff, I'd just about give my left..er arm for a truck load of that stuff :). Good luck with it..
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 24, 2009, 10:25:28 pm
Cowboy and Dana
   I have a friend in that area who says he has plenty on his property and that a truck load should be no problem. If you want some you better come to the classic.
Ron
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 24, 2009, 10:28:45 pm
thats coastal plain chert, just got back with a load yesterday.  you might want to heat that at about 475
I have a couple of questions.
1.If it flakes well what benefits would I get by heating?
2.If I do need to heat it how long do I need to hold it at475?
Thanks Ronnie
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: knap_123 on January 25, 2009, 01:22:36 am
f the stone is workable raw i wouald work it raw.  buy if you heat it, you'll get a richer color,  smother texture.  if you dont like it to brittle and little tough 400 will do fine. c.p. has alot of water pockets in it. so you will need 8 hrs of dry time at 225.  then raise it up to desires temp and hold for 8hrs.  i like to work mine raw alot, but some like it easyer to work or prettier.  most of the brown will turn reddish or caramel and slick up like snot. :)
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: D. Tiller on January 25, 2009, 02:44:57 am
Ron, you heat it and send it on over here and I will treat it reall nice! Heat and treat!!!

Yep! Its late here and I should go to bed!
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: DanaM on January 25, 2009, 08:32:57 am
Cowboy and Dana
   I have a friend in that area who says he has plenty on his property and that a truck load should be no problem. If you want some you better come to the classic.
Ron

I'll be at the Classic Ronnie, put me down fer some eh :)
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: Dingleberry on January 25, 2009, 02:59:55 pm
Nice find Ronnie,

I'll see you at the classic also and we can do some resource tradin.
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 25, 2009, 07:24:33 pm
Nice find Ronnie,

I'll see you at the classic also and we can do some resource tradin.
I'll be looking forward to it.we'll do some cookin and eatin too.Ron
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cowboy on January 26, 2009, 09:26:25 am
Well, theres yet another incentive to make the Classic. I'm hoping to pull that rabbit out of the hat ::).
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: Dingleberry on January 26, 2009, 09:32:03 am
Sweet,  As long as your cookin Ron, well be alright ;D

Come on Paul.  You have to uphold your status as the "Johnstone Champion"!
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 26, 2009, 04:47:20 pm
Oh by the way Paul you gotta bring your bow too its the only chance most of us get to see a cowboy bow.Ron
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: billy on January 26, 2009, 06:40:48 pm
HEy cracker,

That's some nice lookin stone.  It looks a little grainy in the pics, so if you cook it it will probably gloss up really nice.  Enjoy it man, a lot of guys who want to flintknap don't have access to good stone like that.   
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: DanaM on January 26, 2009, 07:24:38 pm
Yup like me, lots of ice but no stone ;) >:(
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 26, 2009, 08:08:17 pm
Yup like me, lots of ice but no stone ;) >:(
Hey Dana if you can do it real fast you might get in some ice knappin.Ron ;D
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cowboy on January 26, 2009, 08:16:50 pm
Allright, you guys keep dangling that carrot and your going to force me to make that drive ;D.
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: mullet on January 26, 2009, 08:20:06 pm
 It's only seven hours for me.
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 26, 2009, 08:24:48 pm
Allright, you guys keep dangling that carrot and your going to force me to make that drive ;D.
Drive um drive um drive um gotta keep on drivin.........
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: D. Tiller on January 27, 2009, 02:14:15 am
You guys are driven me up the wall!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 27, 2009, 07:04:11 am
Hey I thought about the poor unfortunate souls that aint got no rock. Thats why I decided to bring as much of the stuff as i could get my hands on.Ron
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: Wolf Watcher on January 27, 2009, 09:45:48 am
 ::) ::) Am driven from Wyoming so don't feel sorry for all the neighbors with short drives.  :'( Am really looking forward to putting a face to the name!  Want to learn how to make a bow and do some trading!  Hope to get some coral and other southern rocks!  Maybe a stave or two and especially some river cane to make Indian flutes with! Watcher
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: John K on January 27, 2009, 11:35:34 am
Nice find Ronnie ! I'll be down to the Classic, save me a couple pieces please !!
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on January 27, 2009, 02:33:02 pm
We'll be lookin for ya. Ron
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: knap_123 on January 27, 2009, 03:00:27 pm
wolf watcher, if you need cane let me no.  i can get you all you want.
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: mullet on January 27, 2009, 09:32:04 pm
 Wolf, I can get all the bamboo, any size you need. Just let me know.
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: D. Tiller on January 28, 2009, 01:08:59 am
Ron, save me a little too! Looks like some good rock.

Eddie, can I get a little boo too???!!!???
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: GregB on January 28, 2009, 08:46:50 am
Jonathan (Dingleberry), I couldn't think of your name to save my life when I posted my dogwood bow. I wanted to mention you as well that I probably had some of your flint scrap's ground up on the back of my bow along with the other's! ;) Hey, I think I can edit.... :)

Sure hope you guys can make the Classic, fun hanging out with you and watching yall work your magic on those points! Cowboy, when you goin' to make a bow outta that wood I gave you? You're mighty good at working magic on wood as well as flint! ;)
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on March 29, 2009, 10:04:58 pm
Hit a snag in acquiring rocks for the classic the ones that I got are different from the ones I posted at the beginning of this thread I will post pics tomorrow.Ronnie
Title: Re: Some rocks I found
Post by: cracker on June 20, 2009, 11:34:05 am
Here it iis.