Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Kegan on January 13, 2009, 08:24:10 pm
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I can't get it to work. The small tangs aren't long enough to hold all three blades. Can someone who uses this show me some pictures of what they use? I've been trying this for about three years, and have never been able to get the darn thing to work :P. I feel I'm missing something very simple, and am gonna kick myself once I realize what it is :).
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Kegan, Kegan, Kegan..............Tape the 3 blades together with electrical tape. Hold on either end then saw away. Ya know saw, saw, saw ! ;D Wow hey this workee good ! :o..........bob
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Kegan-
This is how I did mine. I taped them offset so that one end is one blade. The center is three blades and the other end is two blades. Here are some pics. Hope this helps.
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Kegan, I could never get the hacksaw blades working to suit me, either. I use a little round rasp that I picked up at a hobby shop somewhere, works great.
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I use my band saw or scroll saw. I couldn't get the hack saw blades to stay centered. I then clean them up with a chain saw file.
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what are we talking about here??? are we talking about making self nocks??? if so i use a hacksaw and make slit thin slit in the shaft and then very carfully with my 1" X 30" vertical belt sander ( a harbor frieght speacil ) i come in from the side with the 1" belt and just widing teh slit by sanding and then i take it out and flip to get the other side... if i remember when the boys come over for the weekend i will take a picture of how it works... after i get the slit wide enough i then take a drill bit the same thinkness of a bow string and slowly drill the inside end of the nock to make a snap on type nock... shoot a little laquer on the inside of the knock or a drop of super glue sofly brushed to harden the inside of the self knock and your good!!!
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I start with a single band saw cut and work it out with a thin bladed knife and sand paper folded over and over to open the throat of the nock. Then I use a small rat tail to round the bottom and relieve the edges for the string. Pat
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Tile blade....aka, grit coated blade (for your hacksaw). Works good.... ;D
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Use a bandsaw or try drilling a 1/8" hole and use a razor knife to cut down to the hole on either side
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I have used three hacksaw blades and the tile saw and they bith worked great. It does help me some with the blades to turn the middle blade the opposite way of the outside two.
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I'm with Jack crafty on this one. Tile cutting blade works great and they are cheap too.
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I had the same problem as Eddie-couldn't keep the cut straight. I usually make an initial cut with the bandsaw or a hacksaw, then follow the cut with the round rasp. I've used those tile blades too, and they work good.
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I like the options with your setup rick. I just use a small flat file and then a small round file with sandpaper for the finishing touches. I do more damage with the hack blades and no good at all with any power tools ;D
tracy
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I use a Dremel with a cutting wheel for cutting the nock. I then use two small files (flat and round) to widen the nock, and three levels of sandpaper (60 grit, 150 grit, and 220 grit) to shape and finish them. Using hacksaw blades takes too long for me.
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I agree with Jackcrafty and minuteman.The tile saw is the best tool for self-nocks I've ever used.(And I've tried em all).If you use cane for arrows,and like your nock to end up in a node,you can use the little groove under the node as a guide,and cut a straight nock.Then ,use the saw to enlarge the bottom,to near string diameter, to make perfect snap nocks. God Bless
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Another vote for the tile saw. That's the best I've found.
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I've used the 1" belt sander like shooter, also. I use that tile saw for abrading notches when I'm knapping.
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Tile saw here as well....in fact I think I learned that little trick by reading some past threads on the subject.
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Sounds like I'll have to look into getting myself a tile saw then :)
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You will like it Kegan...the blades are cheap too if I remember.
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You will like it Kegan...the blades are cheap too if I remember.
Cheap? I will like it ;D!
I did a test on a scrap piece of dowel with three blades ound together. I'll have to get used to it (I'm used to handles) but it's fast and simple. Hopefully I'll be able to get a tile saw, or get used to this.
Thanks everyone :).
I KNEW I'd be kicking myself :D!
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Here's how I do it. See "Selfnocks". jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/
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They make a blade for a sawzall and for that has the same texture as those tile hacksaw blades. It won't bend like the others and takes up very little room in my quiver.
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I was looking around our shop for a block of wood to prop the tip of a bow I was straightenning when I came acorss another hacksaw. I looked at the small prongs and they were much, much longer than the one I'd tried previously. In a few moments it was working perfectly.
Thanks everyone, you've all been a great help :)!
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Kegan, I use a hack saw and three blades. It works well for me. One suggestion though. I used to find tate sooner or later some saw dust would work ts way between the blades and then the cut would wander as the blades spread apart. I put some epoxy glue between the blades before I mount them in the saw. Nice smooth cuts and easy to finish up with a little sandpaper. Ron
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Kegan, I use a hack saw and three blades. It works well for me. One suggestion though. I used to find tate sooner or later some saw dust would work ts way between the blades and then the cut would wander as the blades spread apart. I put some epoxy glue between the blades before I mount them in the saw. Nice smooth cuts and easy to finish up with a little sandpaper. Ron
I noticed that one blade , due to the angle of the progns, was jsut a bit looser than the others. However, being my father's saw and blades, I felt it inappropriate to glue them up in such a permanent fashion. Instead I take a moment to check them, and use a bit of ductape to old them in place during the cut.
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Here are a few tools I use for making arrows. I made an osage handle for my tile saw blade...but I still prefer a single bandsaw cut then open it up with a knife, files and sand paper. ;D
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Very cool stuff Pat :)!
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Pat- Is the smaller darker wooden tool with the elongated hole for straightening? And what is the longer lighter colored wood tool with the non elongated hole for?