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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: youngbowyer on January 04, 2009, 12:41:44 pm

Title: beech shoots?
Post by: youngbowyer on January 04, 2009, 12:41:44 pm
Well as the title says wil beech shoots work cause i know a place where i can get hold of it.
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Post by: adb on January 04, 2009, 08:16:11 pm
For what? Arrow shafts? Or staves? I think beech is good carving wood, but I've never heard of it being used as bow wood.
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Post by: jb.68 on January 04, 2009, 11:11:22 pm
Dunno about beech shoots for arras, but certainly Hazel shoots make good'ns. I imagine that being shoots, the beech should be OK, depends on how stiff they are and what you are shooting them from.  :)
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Post by: Yeomanbowman on January 05, 2009, 05:30:00 pm
Natural bob-tailing too!  Make sure not too much of the shaft is pith and you should be fine but they will be very heavy.
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Post by: youngbowyer on January 05, 2009, 06:02:01 pm
owh okay thanks ill try it, i went to the forest but couldnt find anything that would suit me for arrows but I aqquired a knotty and snaky stavt that I will TRY to make a little fun shooting snaky flat bow out of. Thanks for your help. Right now I have some birch shoots that are seasong, im hoping to make some shafts out of those. Its a pity i cant find a hazel tree anywhere! Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: beech shoots?
Post by: Pat B on January 24, 2009, 05:08:42 pm
Tom, you should have red osier dogwood around where you live. They makes very good shafts. Google Red Osier and you should get info of growth habit and see what it looks like in the wild. Also viburnum, both wild and cultivated, make good shafts.    Pat
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Post by: youngbowyer on January 24, 2009, 05:21:02 pm
thanks Pat, any idead if there is any hazel where i live?
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Post by: Pat B on January 24, 2009, 05:57:39 pm
There should be. Try Google for that too and see.  You might also check your state's Cooperative Extension Service for a list of local plants.
Title: Re: beech shoots?
Post by: youngbowyer on January 24, 2009, 06:01:03 pm
Cooperative state... what's that?
Title: Re: beech shoots?
Post by: Pat B on January 24, 2009, 06:07:12 pm
The Cooperative Extension Service is affiliated with your State University and deals with agriculture and horticulture in the state. They should have a list of trees, shrubs and herbaceous plants that are either indigenous or naturalized in your state.   
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Post by: youngbowyer on January 24, 2009, 06:10:14 pm
Ohw okay thanks! Right now i am going to order some ash shafts fro my new bow.
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Post by: Pat B on January 24, 2009, 06:15:25 pm
Have you tried Allegheny Arrow Wood for shafts? They are located in Penn I think and have all sorts of shafting.
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Post by: youngbowyer on January 24, 2009, 06:18:48 pm
No i haven't tried them yet usually i order from 3riversarchery but now i need ash shafts for this 45 pound bow. Im ordering from richard head longbows as i want medieval heads and i order from historic enterprises to get a couple of handforged type 15's and 16's. But ill have a look at their site.
Title: Re: beech shoots?
Post by: stevesjem on January 26, 2009, 06:41:44 am
Hi Youngbowyer

I would hold off on the ash shafts for your 45lb bow, they will be way too stiff, these would be 3/8" from RH and would spine in the region of 90+lb, you may find they come out of the bow sidewards, I would suggest a diameter of no more than 11/32, see if you can find some dogwood.

Steve
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Post by: Marc St Louis on January 26, 2009, 08:28:57 am
I've used Beech for arrows before.  They work quite well but you do need to straighten them once in awhile.  I made mine from some Beech I had cut for bows, it also worked well for that.  The wood is fairly easy to split so you could split out blanks from a board

White Ash makes a much better arrow.
Title: Re: beech shoots?
Post by: youngbowyer on January 26, 2009, 09:12:53 am
thanks, i too cut a stave of beech for a bow but it's merely 1 1/2 inch thick so no arrows out of that one and no bow either i think.
Title: Re: beech shoots?
Post by: redwasp on January 26, 2009, 08:33:46 pm
What pert of New Jersey are you in? I live in Poconos in Stroudsburg. If you want You could Go out with me and my son when we go gathering. I have a big hickory 40 ft tall needs to be cut from neighbors yard to keep debris out of thier pool. Could sure use some help. I also have many books on bowmaking not so many on flintknapping but your welcome to check them out. Anyway just an idea. Will be awhile before I'm able to cut tree.  I have wild rose growing in my yard everywhere need to be cut anway your welcome to them, cut your own. just pm. me
Title: Re: beech shoots?
Post by: youngbowyer on January 26, 2009, 10:03:24 pm
Ill send you a pm because i just want to be careful with giving out with personal information.