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Title: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on December 26, 2008, 01:38:16 pm
This is my newest. Her name is "Shere Kahn" after the tiger in Kipling's Jungle Book. The backing is tiger striped tissue paper over deer rawhide with American Bison tip overlays.  She is osage, 62"t/t,
1 3/8" wide out most of the limbs until the last 10" and tapering to 3/8" tips and pulls 55#@26". The stave had very thin rings(18rings in the 1/2" thick tip) and a few knots and hoop tee dos so I backed it with rawhide for security. There are a few questionable knots on the belly that may give trouble later. We'll just have to see. I had to do a bit of heat straightening so I also induced some reflex and heat treated the belly. When unstrung she still holds about 1" of reflex. Hemp cord handle wrap set in Massey finish and a floppy rest top her off. This bow shoots very well!    Pat

ps. I'll get an unbraced pic soon.

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Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Keenan on December 26, 2008, 01:51:20 pm
 Love it Pat, Very nice bow. The tips are a perfect match for the pattern and a very fitting name as well. Tiller looks great and looks like a sweet shooter. You did good with all the knots and whoop tee dos. Congratulations ;)
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Post by: 1/2primitive on December 26, 2008, 02:00:29 pm
Great bow, I like the tissue paper, it adds some character to it. :)
     Sean
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Post by: Jesse on December 26, 2008, 02:06:30 pm
Cool bow Pat. Very striking backing. Like the bison tips as well. You'll blend in nicely in the jungles of North America. 
And no tigers were harmed in the making ;D  You go after smaller cats right? :D
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Post by: Jesse on December 26, 2008, 02:09:31 pm
Wait a minute are those cat fur silencers?
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Post by: huntersim on December 26, 2008, 02:19:01 pm
Hi Pat. Cool looking bow.
I was reading the adventures of Fred Bears last night.....the portion about his tiger hunt in India and he mentions that name. I thought....that would be a neat name for a bow :)

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Post by: FlintWalker on December 26, 2008, 02:24:41 pm
Looks great Pat. I bet it shoots good too.
I really like the look of that hemp cordage on the handle. 
 I'm just finishing up one I started at Pappys a while back and was wanting to use some hemp for the grip, but am unsure as to what to do about sealing it.  Would Tru Oil work?
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on December 26, 2008, 02:28:36 pm
Thanks guys. This tissue paper is cool stuff. A bit difficult to work with as it is very thin and when it gets wet, from the glue, it has a tendency to tear. This is the same stuff I backed the bow I sent Koan last year for Christmas...his is leopard though.
   ...and Jesse, no cats were injured in the making of this bow...not even small ones. ;D  Some unfortunate sheep did loose his fleece years ago and the silencers were made from that.
   Shannon, I guess Tru-Oil would work OK. I used Massey finish(2ton epoxy thinned with acetone) to seal it and it keeps it attached to the handle too as it will soak through. The hemp string comes from Wally World in the craft dept.
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Post by: Denham Archer on December 26, 2008, 02:39:20 pm
Very nice bow.  Very good work!
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Post by: dragonman on December 26, 2008, 02:55:53 pm
Nice looking bow, nice decorations and the tiller looks good too. I would'nt mind to test it out! never tried shooting an osage bow.

I've always been too scared to make a bow with a knot in the working section like you have here, but it obviously can be done as you've shown. I'm gonna reconsider chucking out some old staves with knots now!! but, you dont reckon this is just because it's osage ?? can you get away with knots in other woods too??
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Gordon on December 26, 2008, 03:14:48 pm
Pat, whenever I see a new bow post from you it's like Christmas morning - I just can't wait to open it up and see what kind of present you have given us. As usual you did not disappoint - I just love it!
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on December 26, 2008, 03:24:20 pm
Thanks Gordon. Coming from you that is quite a compliment and I appreciate it very much. Ho HO HO!!!
   Dragonman, Knots usually are no problem for any wood if you deal with them properly. Try to center the knot on the limb. You don't want them on an edge if you can help it and if it is just leave extra wood around it if possible. I have made knotty bows from all kinds of wood. You have to take your time but these types of bows can teach you a lot. Pat
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 26, 2008, 04:04:57 pm
Pat, that's just a wonderful bow. Gordon has it right. Your bows are delightful surprises.
"This bow shoots very well!"
Of, course it does. You made it!
Well done.
Jawge
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on December 26, 2008, 04:33:58 pm
Thanks George.   
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Post by: cracker on December 26, 2008, 05:22:16 pm
Hi Pat
   Thats realy wild pun intended GRRRReat looking bow as always.
Ron
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Post by: Pat B on December 26, 2008, 06:05:54 pm
Thanks Ron.
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Post by: Hillbilly on December 26, 2008, 06:06:26 pm
That's a good lookin' weapon Pat, just looks like a smooth shooter and easy on the eyes, too- nice work (as always).  8)
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Post by: Little John on December 26, 2008, 06:17:06 pm
Yep, like Steve said easy on the eyes and nice as always. I like the grip looks like a good steady purchase even when wet.    Kenneth
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Post by: AKAPK on December 26, 2008, 06:24:03 pm
Pat, I'm really impressed with that Bow is that a gift for a lady?
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Post by: Little John on December 26, 2008, 08:40:46 pm
Another good thing about the grip, it should keep moisture from getting trapped under it like with a leather grip.
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Post by: koan on December 26, 2008, 08:52:40 pm
Wow Pat! Awesome as usual! If'n he gets lonely you can always send him to visit his distant cuzin here in Mo. ::)...I hunted with the "Leopard" tissue bow all last season in the rain and snow and the grip and tissue were never a problem at all...still holdin tight and dry....However the dern thing did scare off all the deer :D....Brian
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Post by: Kegan on December 26, 2008, 09:01:48 pm
Simply excellent :)!
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Post by: OldBow on December 27, 2008, 12:28:17 am
Absolutely gorgeous! Obviously a serious candidate for Dec 08 Bow of the Month.
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Post by: DanaM on December 27, 2008, 06:31:33 am
Another fine bow Pat :) That tissue paper sure makes for a interesting and different back eh.
My last 10 bows have all been cordage grips, to me they are more comfortable and durable
than leather, and ya don't have to worry about moisture :)
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Postman on December 27, 2008, 11:32:29 am
wow - what a beauty! That must have been a fun ring to chase ;D
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on December 27, 2008, 11:36:45 am
Postman, The rings were so thin there was no way to chase one ring...at least for me. That is why I added the rawhide backing under the tiger striped tissue paper.   
Thanks everyone.   And Phil, I am the lady!  :-*   well, only on Friday nights. ;D     Pat
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Dustybaer on January 02, 2009, 05:53:25 am
awesome bow, pat.  you are the most creative person i know, when it comes to appearance.  keep it up, my friend.
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Post by: Pappy on January 02, 2009, 06:41:13 am
Sweet looking bow Pat,love the camo job,tiller looks great,very nice work.
   Pappy
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Post by: ricktrojanowski on January 02, 2009, 06:42:53 am
Pat- That is a wild looking bow. I like the way you matched up the string colors to the bow.  Tiller looks great. I have heard you mention the Massey finish before.  What is the ratio of epoxy to acetone?
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Dane on January 02, 2009, 09:47:52 am
Very cool, elegant bow. And just a bit of trivia about Kipling, you should take the bow up here to Brattleboro, Vermont, about 15 minutes drive from where I live. Kipling lived there, and wrote The Jungle Book there.

His house is now a museum. Pretty strange imagining the guy in jodpurs and a pith helmet tramping around the wilds of Southern Vermont.

Dane
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on January 02, 2009, 10:39:01 am
Thanks everyone. The animal print paper adds a bit of fun to my bows and it will be an effective camo.
  Marius, You have seen me so you know how creative I can be with my appearance.  :o ;D
Rick, I don't measure. I mix up the epoxy then add acetone until it is the consistency I want. For these handle wraps I want it quite thin so it will saturate the string and glue the wrap to the bow.
  Dane, I'd bet Rudyard would flip in his grave if I showed up at his home with Shere Kahn! 
 Vermont is a long way from the jungles of India.
Thanks Pappy.                         Pat
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Little John on January 04, 2009, 12:55:36 pm
Pat, I am considering using the hemp  cord and Massey finish on the bow I am working on, Where do you get your cord? Or are there other materials that would work as well like braided fishing line?
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on January 04, 2009, 01:23:15 pm
Kenneth, I got the hemp from WalMart in the craft section.  I've used braided crochet thread and other cotton threads or string with good results. This hemp is a good diameter. The smaller the diameter the more string it takes to do the wrap. The first time I used hemp(for handle wraps ::)) was to keep a bow together that was spliced in the handle and had a 2 piece backing strip. ??? ::)  Once set in the epoxy, this stuff is very strong. The hemp is dang strong by itself.     Pat
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Little John on January 04, 2009, 01:34:14 pm
Thanks Pat, you dont put any Padding under the wrap do you? Just looks like in your photo that the wrap is built up a bit more than just the cord. About what diameter cord do you use? Do you use any glue under the wrap or just on top.     Kenneth
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on January 04, 2009, 01:52:12 pm
I usually fill out the back of the handle with a piece of shoe leather. The hemp cord only comes in one size that I have seen. By using very thin epoxy, it saturates through the hemp and on to the handle keeping it secure. Be sure you wrap in the direction your fingers go around the handle. If you go the other way the wrap can looses from just your grip.  I'll find a pic of a handle with the leather on the back and post it here soon.    Pat
Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: Pat B on January 04, 2009, 01:58:47 pm
Here you go!  I like a bulbous handle and in most cases I have to pack out the back of the handle with leather(wood will work too, also cork or rubber) so it is bulbous all around the handle and fits my hand better.

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Title: Re: Kipling-esk bow
Post by: dragonman on January 04, 2009, 02:14:52 pm
nice handle, I have been having problems with handles and this gives me some good ideas, thanks
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Post by: Pat B on January 04, 2009, 02:21:34 pm
On the last one I did I left the leather rectangular(instead of oval) but tapered it from the center out to each end. I then round the edges and contour it to make it comfortable. It makes it smoother for applying the wrapped handle.
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Post by: Little John on January 04, 2009, 02:28:10 pm
Thanks Pat that will help a lot, and I will be to that point before too long.        Kenneth
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Post by: dragonman on January 04, 2009, 02:35:47 pm
whats the little brown leather pouch above the handle???
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Post by: Little John on January 04, 2009, 05:03:16 pm
Dragon, that is called a solo stalker. Basicly it is a single arrow bow quiver, holds only the broadhead and the shaft is held in your hand with the bow handle. Much safer than carrying a hunting arrow with nothing to protect you from the razer edge. Much more traditional than a regular bow quiver.    Kenneth
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Post by: GregB on January 05, 2009, 08:21:00 am
Very nice bow Pat! I'm late seeing it...haven't been online much over the holidays. :)
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Post by: Pat B on January 05, 2009, 09:48:59 am
Thanks Greg. Boy have you been missing all the fun!!! :o ;D
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Post by: Rich Saffold on January 05, 2009, 01:02:50 pm
Ya that bow fits the 'Jungle Book" profile ;D Very cool Pat.
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Post by: Pat B on January 05, 2009, 01:39:44 pm
Thanks Rich.     Pat
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Post by: brownhillboy on January 05, 2009, 01:54:05 pm
Hey Pat, I too have been busy with the holidays and missed this one.  Like all the others said, very nice bow and cool backing! 8)  Looks like something Uncle Ted would use if the "spirit of the wild" brought him back to primitive bows! ;D