after getting permission to hunt the outter perimeter of some property, i'm finally closing in on the deer. i was pretty close to nailing the four pointer last week but didn't let go. kicked myself for that one but i've gotten over it. met with the owner sat. and talked with him for close to three hours. he suggested an oak grove on the outter edge near a water treatment plant. i scouted the place sun. afternoon. found some trails that looked like someone went through there with a tiller. i hung my lock on near the edge of a steep hill hoping it would funnel the deer along the edge for a 10 yard shot on my left side. well went there mon. about six, three does came out and walked almost completely around me. they finally worked there way to me from behind, which is where the wind was blowing, and the lead doe caught my scent. since this place is so near people she didn't really get too alarmed but definately went on alert. all she needed to do is take three more steps and she would be in my shooting lane. there is a large downed pine tree she had to step over and when she stepped over she just happened to look up at me. she didn't like what she saw and did a 180. she jumped two steps and kept walking but never looked back at me. go figure! about 30 minutes later i looked up to see what i thought was a small buck. turned out to be a very nice 8 pointer. i grunted at him several time and stopped him. he seemed to think about coming my way but kept going. then, just as i was ready to get down at dark, i heard the crunch-crunch of a deer walking through leaves. sure enough, two more does walked down the trail the earlier does had been walking. i drew back but it was too dark for a shot. hopefully i can get back in there sat. or mon.