problems with broadhead flight

[ballista]

 hmm....... well, i havent seen the video-but i read the book, it sounds very similar, its more of actually aiming the arrow vs instinct correct? it sounds like a good one though, i got a good movie on boo backed bows by dean torges, he goes through alot of the broadhead designs and what not-if you ever see it, buy it, its a good one, even if you're real primitive, the knowelege of alot of this stuff that he covers is good to know, and very intresting too-thanks, jimmy

[Kegan]

The video goes into form a good deal. Hill's book covers his aiming method, but doesn't really go into form. I've started to see why I miss, so I can correct it- and my consistency has gone way up.

[ballista]

really? thats awesome- my consistancy is where my problem is to, bro- my first few shots are great, then the last few that are 3- 6 inches off it sounds like a great video though, do you know where you could buy it? there's a trad archery shop called the footed shaft in minnesota, the second biggst retail in the US, next to three rivers, but the shop isnt too big, a nice place. Im in illinois, my dad heads up there every six weeks, so they might have it- but these guys were shooting longbows correct? I was shooting a small heavily recurved bow today at my buddy's house, i didnt realize how much diferent shooting that kinda bow is! yeah, howard hill was a great archer man, i never realized how any game there were in the everglades until i read his book, a great read too. thanks, -jimmy

[Kegan]

Got to 3 Rivers website and request a catalouge. It's in there, they'll send it tright to your door . Yes, they are shooting longbows. John Shulz (the man doing the shooting and teaching in the video ) is shooting an American fiberglass backed longbow (alot like your Bear bow).

[ballista]

 oh god, half the trools and strings i have is from 3 rivers! tanks man, will do for sure. I was going to buy a bow from there actually, but now i got that bear, im set. do you ever make bows with glued on risers? i know its not primitive, so maybe you dont, but i finishd the pistol gripriser today, tomarrow im going to work on the taper/tiller, 1.5 inch tapering to 3/4 inch, 64 inches long, 10 1/2 riser. im not sure how to tiller it, im guessing stiff fades, stiff tips, and alot of md limb bend... which im kinda trying to avoid. thanks, jimmy.

[Kegan]

I would do so mroe often (glue on risers) if my glue joints weren't so attrocious ! I like the freedom of amterial it gives to make it fit right. Most of the time, though, leather winds up as the handle material. More forgiving to my crappy glue-ups . As for the tiller, a circular, with a stiff center, tiller seems best for bows under man's height. Bending tips, bending just outside the fades. All the super stiff ones I've made came out way under weight.

[ballista]

 yeah, likewise, the riser bows ive made have all been about 20 pounds. this one's a monster, im hoping this one will be a beauty. so you wouldn't change the tiller a whole lot? i made a recurve last week with glued on padouk recurve bits, the riser popprd right off.... obviously a little too much bend in the handle i guess. well im going to get a camera this week, I'll post the bow within the next few days- the handle is kinda a knockoff of a savannah longbow, amazingly comfortable.yea, glue ups are hard if you don't have a plainer, i need to get one myself. -jimmy

[Kegan]

To help with that leave the wood under the limbs thicker (about 18" or more) and really make the fades concave. Helps me.

[ballista]

 oh, so there is alot of bend in the fades? I thought it was the other way around, but it does make sense. oh, I think i know why my consistancy was off on my selfbow, do you shoot underspine arrows if the bow aint centershot? I was thinking maybe its too stiff to bend arouund the riser, but thats just a thought. thanks, -jimmy

[Kegan]

I meant to type more than an 1/8" thicker than the wood jsut outside the fades. Resulting in stiff fades, but a more circular tiller to the limbs. But yes, for non centershot bows the spine is under. I'm shooting 60-65# arrows for my 76# longbow.

And I managed to knock a bottle cap out of the air last night with that set up .

[ballista]

 nice shootin- I had a little hickory bow snap on me today, my glued on riser had an arrow shelf cut in it, and the riser popped off. so, i figured go with it, had it nicley tilleres at 20, pulled to about 26, crack! right at the shelf. im actually going to laminate a bow tonght, no strech wrap tough... thank you duck tape lol im not so sure on how that's going to work, i don't have many clamps, so it's going to have to do. thanks-jimmy