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1st Osage bow. Tiller question (Now with Photos!!)
« on: August 23, 2008, 01:42:47 am »
(Sorry, but unable to post photos)

Here it is in a nutshell.

55" ntn
1 1/2" wide
D shape bend in handle
Tried to make a plains style bow

Tiller good:   On tillering tree At full draw (25") it looks great (to me).  Nice fairly eavenly curving limbs and 55 lbs

Tiller bad:  When braced one limb looks like it doesn't have near as much bend.  The D looks off.

Question:  What do I do?  Is this possible, or is my untrained eye not seeing the stiffness of the one limb at full draw?
« Last Edit: August 23, 2008, 11:29:49 pm by bowkill »

Offline koan

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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2008, 01:54:50 am »
Bowkill, dont sweat it to much, them shorty bows really exagerate tiller issues..if it shoots with little to no handshock it cant be off to much. If you remove wood from the stiffer braced limb it WILL effect the full draw... does the stiffer limb have more reflex(or less set) when unbraced?....Brian
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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2008, 02:02:35 am »
The stiffer limb does has a little more "natural" string follow.  It's a little snakey and has a natural bend in it there.  The other limb doesn't have any follow at all (yet). 

Here is another question.  I've looked at other bows similar to this on here, and at full draw they usually have 4-6 inches of arrow sticking out in front of the bow.  I planned on cutting my arrows to "fit" the bow.  Isn't that what I should do?

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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2008, 02:46:23 am »
well if the tiller looks good at draw, let the arrows fly brother.

as far as arrow length goes. thats a personal preferance thing,some people leave them long so they dont have to worry about getting their fingers in
the way of broadheads,some like tucked up to the bow(like on a wheel bow),myself i leave thme a little long about two inches past the back of the bow.
its not much but it gives me a little comfort knowing my knuckles are clear of the broadhead,and if i pull a little harder i still keep the arrow here it needs to be.

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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2008, 12:31:30 pm »
Make the stiffer limb the lower limb.  When you draw it gets more stress, and bering stiffer it will be stronger and hold up better.

You might try bracing it and then meauring the depth from belly to string at set distances from the center of the bow.  That'll give you some idea of how far off it is.  You typically want the lower limb to be 1/8"-1/4" closer to the string at the deepest point (which will be pretty close to the handel on a bendy handle bow.)

As for arrow length, its more im portant that the arrows be spined for the bow.  Shortening an arrow, makes it effectively stiffer.  Using a heavier point, makes it more limber.  You want to play with the combination of length and point weight (if you have different weight field points that is) until you get good arrow flight, ie,  the arrow doesn't slap the riser on takeoff or consistently hit left or right of where you're aiming.  But yes its nice not to have  arrows sticking way out front of the bow riser, so you can always get a closer-spined arrow for your draw weight to start and thatll make it more likely that they'll be of a length taht isn't too m uch out in front of the riser. 
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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2008, 06:38:27 pm »
 Well, Tom said everything I was going to say.
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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2008, 11:23:50 pm »
I'll try a couple photos.  I know you guys are jealous of my fancy bow rack, but I work on the road, and took these photos in my motel room.  (The maids haven't said anything yet about the strange yellow dust in the bathroom)

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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2008, 11:29:10 pm »
Hey!!! It worked!!!  Here are a couple more.

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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question (Now with Photos!!)
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2008, 11:53:13 pm »
Nice bow! I have worked on the road a lot and have shot in my room but never made a bow in the tub, good idea.

Left limb looks a little stiffer in both the brace and drawn photos. It is bending less about the middle third. Before you take any off though you should shoot it some. See how it feels and figure out which is the top and bottom limb. As stated above, the bottom limb likes to be a little stiffer and a bit closer to the string at brace.

Not reason to cut arrows real short, you'd need very weak spine for a 26" arrow. Let em hang out there a bit, makes it easier to point too.

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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question (Now with Photos!!)
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2008, 12:06:43 am »
Thanks for the reply.  Now tell me how you shoot in your room!!!

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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question (Now with Photos!!)
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2008, 12:20:45 am »
                                           get you a good old Couch Cushion....they work awesome!!!
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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question (Now with Photos!!)
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2008, 12:31:28 am »
Very nice Bowkill. You done good!    Pat
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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question (Now with Photos!!)
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2008, 12:44:59 am »
To shoot in a motel room, set a cube type layered target on the lounge chair in one corner and back up as far as you can into the far corner. This is great for working on form and to keep you bow drawing muscles in shape. Hint.... stop before you get real tired, the little round holes hardly show in the chair, but you don't want to make a habit of it. If you chose your hotel for its location, you can sometimes shoot in the back yard.

Always admired the 30 yard potential of the hallways but could never figure out how to keep people in their rooms.

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2008, 01:03:12 am »
                                              You are a Whacko Shaun.....my kinda people!!!


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Re: 1st Osage bow. Tiller question (Now with Photos!!)
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2008, 12:37:20 pm »
That's gotta be a La Quinta ;D. What kind of work do you do? Bow's looking good, I carry a small hand broom and dust pan in my tool box for shaving's and chips so housekeeping doesn't say anything ;).
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