actually vincent met me when he was just 17 or 18 years old,he cut his first tree off my property and i helped him make his first hickory selfbow.after that he was hooked,he then wanted to become one of my students, at the time I was teaching primitive skills and bowmaking, flintknapping and such. i've been teaching for over 28 years. i've had many good teachers: Steve Watts, Errett Callahan, Jack Cresson, Scott Silsby, and many others in primitive technology. He also wanted to become one of my martial arts students, but because of his lack of discipline and respect for me, my students, and the school in general, he did not last more than four classes. Although I did continue to teach him bowmaking and flintknapping through the years. he actually became the best flintknapping student I ever had. but yet again, with lack of respect and especially ethics he went his way, I went mine. I will no longer teach him anything. and to beat it all, he is my brother-in-law; i am married to his sister Rebecca. so if there is any influence whatsoever, i am the one that gave it to him, but thanks for your interest . . . .. robustus
