BowED

[bassman211]

BowEd read your private messages. I have a question for you.

[Pat B]

I haven't seen Ed here in a long time.

[Selfbowman]

Ya I miss Ed’s knowledge.

[mmattockx]

I haven't seen Ed here in a long time.

He may not be sharing, but he is checking in. He was logged in today (21 June) at some point.


Mark

[superdav95]

I reached out to a while ago and he told me he has other interests.  Your right though he has a lot of great knowledge and makes awesome bows.  Hope he can come back to us. 

[Marc St Louis]

Ya I miss Ed’s knowledge.

I don't miss his attitude

[bassman211]

Ok ... I shoot indoor target every Tuesday. I am 76 years old , and feel like I have total control over my wood bows at no more than 32lbs. for 60 shots in an evening. I can still pull, and shoot a 50 lb. bow for a few shots. I have been reducing my bows to 30 to 32lbs draw for me for target shooting. Today I chrony tested 6 of my bows from 30 to 32 lbs. Two sinew backed Osage bows, two hickory self bows, and two birch bows. I am shooting a 370 gr. arrow. At 30lb draw the 2 sinew Osage bows shot 137,138 fps. The two hickory self bows shot 145,148, and the two birch bows with B55 string shot 134,135 fps. The bows are designed the same basic way. Not true pyramid, but close. I am satisfied with the  speeds I got, but puzzled by the hickory self bows shooting harder than the Osage bows. The one sinew backed Osage was the only bow that had reflex. The rest were even,or up to an inch string follow.The Hickory, and Osage bows had 10 strand D97 strings. I expected the reflexed sinew Osage bow to perform the best speed wise, but it didn't.

[Selfbowman]

Interesting! I would have bet on the Osage. All the same length and width?

[bassman211]

Arvin... the 2 hickories are 63, and 64 inches nock to nock with slimmer design. The 2 Osage bows are  63, and 64 nock to nock with a 1/4 inch wider profile through the length of the bows. 18 ounces mass weight with the 2 sinew backed Osage, and the 2 hickory bows 16,  and 17 ounces. Tomorrow I am going to test them again to see if I get the same readings. Some thing seems off to me.

[Eric Krewson]

I am with Marc on this topic.

[bassman211]

Arvin your in box is full for private messages.  The bows all shot 140 fps today except for one skinny  hickory bow. It shot 148 average. I made it from a 19 year old seasoned stave, and draw was 3lbs. heavier than the rest. The stave was narrow so I could only get one ,and an eighth wide at the fades.  Hard shooter for what it is. I shot it with a 10 strand low stretch 652 string.

[willie]

Arvin... the 2 hickories are 63, and 64 inches nock to nock with slimmer design. The 2 Osage bows are  63, and 64 nock to nock with a 1/4 inch wider profile through the length of the bows. 18 ounces mass weight with the 2 sinew backed Osage, and the 2 hickory bows 16,  and 17 ounces. Tomorrow I am going to test them again to see if I get the same readings. Some thing seems off to me.

if your osage bows are slightly wider than the same in hickory, then its possible the osage ones are slightly overbuilt in the sense they coulld have theoretically been narrower and thicker (on account of the fact that osage is supposed to be able to bend further than hickory, all other things being equall, or  said another way, slightly thicker and bend the same distance).   
if taking early set while tillering out those bows told you to take more off the belly, then that piece of osage was not as good as hickory.
if you find your self retillering stronger bows to lesser poundages as you get older, do you reduce widths to reduce weight?
ed posts at paleoplanet often

[bassman211]

Willie....No. I remove wood from the belly. No limb has become so thin that I thought would be a problem so far. The hickory bow was from a split, and not much was left for width. I didn't heat treat the belly, or try to iron out the limbs. It looks like it is negative tiller, but at full draw the limbs are balanced. I just wanted to try to get a bow out of it. It turned out much better than I thought it would. I made a bow from the wider part of the stave, and sinew backed it. It ended up with an inch of reflex. I haven't chronied that one yet, but I will soon just to compare it to the split.

[Dvshunter]

I'm almost positive I will see ed in a few weeks at mojam. He is a good man all around. Jist different in the beautiful way that we are.

[superdav95]

I'm almost positive I will see ed in a few weeks at mojam. He is a good man all around. Jist different in the beautiful way that we are.

Cool. Say hi to him for me and wish him well.  Thanks.