Tiller check please!

[Deerhunter21]

It’s been a whiiilllleee… I don’t trust my eye… but I have my hunches. What do you guys think?

[Deerhunter21]

I don’t know why the last one is upside down… lol

[superdav95]

If it were me I’d start with scraping the inner 1/3rd of left limb and see where it’s at.  Then see you may need to scrape a bit from the outer 1/3rd of same limb.  Looking good so far.  Best of luck with the build. 

Cheers

[Deerhunter21]

so just checking... when you say left limb... do you mean the left limb when its upside down? or the left limb when its right side up?

[allonmorris]

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[Deerhunter21]

Ok hopefully this fixes it

[Deerhunter21]

this is what i see... i feel like it could bend more in that right area... but it could just look like that because the bow starts twisting.

the left might need to bend more but its also reflexed so i think its ok.

[superdav95]

Deer hunter.  I mean left limb in pic of bow where back of the bow is facing the ceiling.  It’s easier to see and get idea with right side up pic.  I stand by my suggestion on that left limb.  In the past when I’ve had one limb with more reflex (natural) I would still get it to where I wanted on the tiller tree so that it looks balanced full drawn.  To me it dose t matter as much at rest what it looks like as it does at full draw when it’s at max stress.  I believe it will be a more balanced bow on release as well.  Other option is to make that your bottom limb and shoot it a bit at 1/2- 3/4 draw and then  finally full draw to see how it feels in the hand.  It may be like you say that it just looks this way due to the more reflex in the left limb.  I made an iron wood bow last year that had the same thing going on as your bow here.  I made that slightly stiffer limb the bottom limb and shot it a bunch. After about 150 arrows I noticed that the bow balanced itself out.  No scrapes needed.  Still shoots good.  It also had a wicked twist with string favouring the right side with this stiffer limb at the bottom.  Worked out well for that bow. Every piece of wood is different and getting what you want out of that wood is working with the natural twists and reflexes to your advantage sometimes.  Best of luck

[bambule]

I think, with these different profile of limbs, one deflex one reflex, it‘s a good tiller - both limbs are bending „equal“ - based on the profile.

Greetz
Cord

[Pat B]

The reason I prefer a symmetrical bow is it is easier to see proper tiller and especially for a newby bow builder. One other thing is to never pull a bow being tillered past good tiller, meaning if you are uncertain about the tiller don't pull it farther just to get a look at it. This can over strain the weaker limb and lead to hinges.
 It looks to me that the outer limb in both limbs needs to bend more, especially the left. If the right limb is twisting when drawn that is a situation that should be remedied before you progress farther.

[Allyn T]

Looks to me like the right limb is bending a lot in the inners and not much elsewhere. The left limb looks like it has a pretty nice even bend so far.

[bambule]

I think the unbraced profile is from where we have to start.
The tiller can't look even on full draw because the shape of the limbs is not even.
To geht both limbs bending even would cause in a huge amount of wood removal and won't fit in the unbraced profile.
That's how I would deal with the bow.

Greetz
Cord

[Deerhunter21]

just a little context on this bow. This was a finished bow that is for someone. I heat treated it and now I feel like the tiller is a off. The problem for me is that the tiller looks good and bad at the same time. I just don’t have tons of experience with bows shaped like this haha!

Also, the picture is 50 lbs at 26” which is 1” away from full draw

[bambule]

ok, but that doesn't change my idea. Unbraced profile is uneven - if natural or from heat treating is not the point - full draw must fit to unbraced profile to get even stress on the limbs...

[Deerhunter21]

Thanks bambule, I know. I was just giving some more context about the bow since I’m gonna post it once it’s finished

And superdav, I think this bow is a lot like the bow you’re talking about.

i think im going to work on the left outer first... then re-evaluate and probably work on the right outer then.