yeah it took him a few tries to get the length right for his bow.. it finally worked and he was satisfied that it could be done.. eliminates need to foreshaft which I guess is really not a need anyway.. ferret used to plug his cane... but to me.. the added weight of the foreshaft and length really help the already light shaft of cane and the FOC for better arrow flight.. I can tell by how my arrows fly.. Thad also driills out his cane now with a flint drill so all his foreshafts can be interchangeable... I haven't gotten that far yet..lol... but it is definitely a cool idea... so now he can make up a bunch of foreshafts.. with bird point , blunt, or hunting points and just pop on a new foreshaft and walla... in this video he makes a homemade turkey decoy and arrows a wild turkey with all primitive gear.. that was an accomplishment itself and to get it on video too... gut