ok guys I pretty much agree, but the calf skin, from the belly cuts can be thin enough to work with,,
if you order a thin cow skin from a drum shop,, it can work quite well, and have been happy with results,,I have used the scrap peaces from drum repair with good results,, now its not like the Kangaroo for sure, but in a pinch, ok
the smaller african drums use the thin cow, and the big drums use the heavy cow hide, ,and there is a big difference in thickness