Morgan & Hawkdancer - you hit the nail on the head, after checking in at Supervisor's office (SO) up in Holbrook Az, I drove down the 'dry lake road' to Heber & Overgaard to the District Office. I sort of felt like I had been sent on a snipe hunt seeing darn few trees, pinyon pine and juniper scattered here and there but then, lo and behold, there were the trees, lots of big old Ponderosa Pine. Guessed I was in the right place after all. :-)