ELB vs D bow

[Pat B]

I like your analysis, Allyn.   
TimBo, I don't doubt that a Victorian ELB is a "D" bow I was only making a point that a Victorian ELB has a stiff handle where as an English(Welch) war bow, also an ELB has an arc of a circle profile.

[bassman]

Elb bows have a certain look no other bow has to me. Probably has to do to what Badger said.

[Pat B]

That's the arc of a circle tiller. That and a 1500gr arrow was the original artillery.

[bownarra]

English longbows should definately NOT be tillered to an 'arc of a circle'. Not if you like your teeth! Elbs can be very sweet to shoot BUT you must get the tiller right and that means a strongly elliptical tiller.

[Del the cat]

English longbows should definately NOT be tillered to an 'arc of a circle'. Not if you like your teeth! Elbs can be very sweet to shoot BUT you must get the tiller right and that means a strongly elliptical tiller.

Strongly disagree... never had hand shock from an arc of a circle tillered ELB or otherwise.
IMO most "hand shock is poorly shaped grips, arrows too light for the bow.
I'd say slightly elliptical is ok... strongly elliptical is surely whip tillered which has can have it's own problems like set or chrysals .
The problem with elliptical is how do you define "strongly" or "slightly" whereas a circle is pretty explicit.
(I know we've agreed to disagree on this subject in the past, but we manage it with good humour )
Del

[scp]

There are many types of profiles. Cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_shape

Un-braced (un-stringed) profiles of the bow (stave).
    Front(al) profiles: straight, narrowed handle, Sudbury, Mollegabot, Pyramid, Eiffel tower, paddle, ....
    Side profiles: straight, recurved, decurved, reflexed, deflexed, R/D or D/R, ....
    Cross-section profiles (of different sections): flat, round, ELB, many complex ones as in horn bows, ....

Braced (stringed) or drawn profile. (Can also refer to tillering profile)
    All side profiles.
    Circular, D bow, rigid handle D, elliptical, whip-tillered ...
   
At least we need to figure out why we are asking the question before we can answer it properly.

Q1: Can all bows with "D Bow" braced profile be also called ELB?  No.
Q2: Does the bow profile matter? Of course.
Q3: Do we need to have some standardized bow profile categories? Yes.

Q4: What is the best braced or drawn profile of a bow with the cross-section profile of ELB? Circular or elliptical?

Q5: What is the best profile for a Eastern Red Cedar bow?
     What is the best front, side, and cross section profile for that material?
     What is the best braced and drawn profile of that material?
     Can these questions be answered definitely by any of us?

What is the real, hopefully simple, question you expect to get answered here?

[bradsmith2010]

I think one of the advantages of D bow,,is there can be some varition in the way its tillered,,and still shoot well...