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Offline Deerhunter21

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how to follow the grain
« on: February 22, 2020, 10:46:16 am »
I have a stave that I am working on right now and there was a spot on the side where it was split from the log where there was some wood pulling away. It was causing some problems so i took it off but now I cant follow the grain from the side like I was planning on doing.  I really want this bow to turn out well so i dont want any grain violations. so, how do you follow the grain??
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2020, 10:55:44 am »
oh yeah, its osage too
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2020, 11:23:26 am »
I’m not following you. Are you talking about the edge of the bow?  Some times the fibers separate, or get pulled apart when the stave is split. Is that what you are talking about? 
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2020, 11:24:48 am »
yes. im chasing a ring on it.
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2020, 11:30:01 am »
Can't you run a drawknife down the side to smooth it out so you can see the grain again? If I'm following you?

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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2020, 11:53:41 am »
If I am right about this, you have lateral fibers, along the edge of the limb that have separated. If so you will have cracks running off the edge. A real problem. Do as DC suggested and work the edge until you get past the splits.
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2020, 02:08:42 pm »
can you show us a picture of the problem area? That will take a lot of the guess work out for us.

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2020, 02:33:51 pm »
Yes photos please

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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2020, 06:09:19 pm »
After you chase to your ring, look at stave closely and you can see the grain running tip to tip. Draw a pencil line down the middle following it. Set up your width by measuring on either side appropriately.

You must do this with osage.

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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2020, 06:51:03 pm »
You don't follow grain from the side. You follow grain from above... while looking down onto the bow's back... the side facing away from the archer while shooting.

Growth rings can be seen on the side of a stave.

Grain, and growth rings are two very different and distinguished things.
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2020, 08:08:13 pm »
I am new to this, but when you say “side you were planning on doing”. Do you mean chasing a ring?  You can only chase a ring on the top of the stave and that becomes the back of your bow.  The sides then will be reduced until you establish your width profile.  Does this help or am I misunderstanding?
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2020, 04:03:32 pm »
yeah ill get pictures. its from when the stave was split.
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2020, 04:12:35 pm »
untill i get pics heres what i could draw up.

the red is what i took off
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2020, 04:15:26 pm »
You don't follow grain from the side. You follow grain from above... while looking down onto the bow's back... the side facing away from the archer while shooting.

Growth rings can be seen on the side of a stave.

Grain, and growth rings are two very different and distinguished things.

yes i know  :) im looking from the back
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Re: how to follow the grain
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2020, 04:21:13 pm »
I am new to this, but when you say “side you were planning on doing”. Do you mean chasing a ring?  You can only chase a ring on the top of the stave and that becomes the back of your bow.  The sides then will be reduced until you establish your width profile.  Does this help or am I misunderstanding?
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I ment to say "follow the grain from the side like i was planning on doing." basically when a stave is split it follows the grain more or less so i take a pencil and hold it while putting my fingers on the side of the stave and then running my fingers along the side with the pencil in the middle of the stave, putting a line that follows the outside of the stave. then i go back and tweak the line to follow the grain exactly.
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