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Ruddy Darter

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Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« on: November 25, 2019, 08:31:28 am »
Hi all,

I've been working on this Oregon yew, it's quite snakey with a lower ring count ( about 23 per inch), it's pretty clean with just one knot on the back coming from the side(pictured). I got it to 30" at 110lbs with no set incurred thus far.
I am looking to heat treat with linseed oil and heat gun for next stage. Before I proceed is the tiller looking acceptable? Thankful for any opinion.
https://youtu.be/U7KZ0wDmchw
 R.D.
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2019, 08:33:37 am »
do you think you could post a pic on pa?
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Ruddy Darter

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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2019, 09:05:35 am »
Are these o.k?,

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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2019, 09:08:26 am »
Looks good.
Why do you want to heat treat, what is the target draw weight & draw length?
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2019, 09:16:07 am »
i think the sixth dot to the right is stiff. anyone else seeing that? thanks for the pics.

edit- never mind, i think i saw it compared to the window.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 09:31:06 am by Deerhunter21 »
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2019, 09:23:50 am »
 Hi Del,
I think it will make it a better bow in the long run, I don't think this wood is particularly dense so was thinking a bit of heat will harden it up and less likely to follow the string(?), also crank up a little poundage. There was no target draw weight, I just made it 36"x33" at the centre and 78"ntn and what ever it came out at for a 31" draw. I won't be going too mad with the heat, I'll be doing it by hand to dry up the linseed oil and get some colour on the belly, then fine wire wool it down and finish with coats of Danish oil.
I did rescue an ash bow a little while ago with the heat treating with linseed oil and was really impressed with the result. I was quite amazed. Works wonders on ash and I got some more of that to work with over the winter.

Hi Deerhunter21,
 The bow does snake a bit there on the top limb, (see above first pic) so may affect how it looks, in the video it seems to me to move o.k. (?) Infact that was an area that I went too thin with to start off with and have avoided since. a second opinion by anyone welcome.
May be some time before I get a chance to heat treat, but I'll let you know how that goes when I do.
R.D.
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2019, 05:22:48 pm »
I think the bow has a good tiller.

It is reflecting the deflex at Left 6 and the reflex at Right 1 and Right 8.


Ruddy Darter

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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2019, 05:31:34 pm »
Thank you meanewood, and thanks all for the input, I now feel confident to continue.  8)

 R.D.
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2019, 02:07:15 am »
Very nice tiller :)
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2019, 07:49:26 am »
I would not heat-treat
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2019, 10:16:34 am »
Oops  :)

 I've finished putting some heat through, I would say gently though for about an hour and quarter. Very little colour change if any. I fine wire wooled it first and cooked the linseed oil till dry and then put on a belly coat of Danish oil while still warm. I've just cleaned the back up (which has gone a rich amber colour) and a coat of Danish oil, just got to polish up the nocks. All done now, hopefully it won't prove to be problematic.

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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2019, 12:46:27 pm »
You don't get 'owt for n'owt .
If you heat treat the belly... yes it will toughen up the belly and give you extra pounds...
BUT .. that means the belly may now overpower the back.
I had a flight bow "Il Bastardo"  ;D which was great and won Warbow comp' . I heat treated the belly to see if I could get a bit more...
It exploded  :o.
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Ruddy Darter

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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2019, 01:03:39 pm »
Thanks Del, and rest in peaces "Il Bastado"  (--)  :).
Maybe if I call mine "El Verynicebow"it may be more forgiving.  :)
It is something I wanted to try out, and would keep bugging me till I did give it a go. If it does go T's-up I can put it down to experience. I got some more wood to play with. I must admit I'm a little worried about the back now, it seems harder. I'll string it near the weekend after a couple more coats and gently draw it and see what's occurring. Good or bad, I will post how it goes.
(physical weight now 31.6 oz /897g)
 R.D.
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2019, 08:23:19 pm »
You should let it sit for awhile before pulling it back
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Re: Tiller advice...looking o.k.?
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2019, 02:28:54 am »
Will do Marc,
 I'll leave alone for a week if that's long enough.
 
 R.D.
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