Take down sleeve recommendations

[JW_Halverson]

I am gathering materials for a Victorian carriage bow style longbow with all the bells and whistles.  That means I will need to get takedown sleeves. I am looking for recommendations and people's experience with the various commercial versions available.

What say you, members of the jury?

Also, if anyone knows of a source for the hinged takedown hardware, I'd REALLY love that. And if it was an antique original in working condition, I would be willing to offer a finder's gift (since fees and cash money are not acceptable by Forum Rules).

[Jim Davis]

I use seamless steel tubing. One limb permanently epoxied, the other end waxed before epoxy so it will slip out (With a fair amount  of effort the first  time).

Could make both ends slip for more compactness.

I  pin the permanent end and slot the other end of the handle for an eighth of an inch or so and put a locating pin in  the limb to match the slot.

[PatM]

  The Hinge Outlet has nice stainless steel flush hinges.    Doubt you're going to find original authentic stuff that you can trust.

[Marc St Louis]

I have experience with 1 commercial steel sleeve and it's not something I would do again.  Making my own out of FG on the other hand....

[JW_Halverson]

I have experience with 1 commercial steel sleeve and it's not something I would do again.  Making my own out of FG on the other hand....

Which one was it? If you do not wanna share publicly, feel free to send me a private message.

[Eric Krewson]

I have one of the commercial sleeves, I used it, violated a grain right where the wood fit into the sleeve and the bow failed just as I was finishing it up. It is labor intensive fitting the sleeve to your limbs but done right it works just fine. It has a steel outside and brass inside sleeve.

I will send it to you for free if you want to give it a try, I heated it up to get all the epoxy out of it and it needs to be cleaned up.

[Bob Barnes]

I have one of the commercial sleeves, I used it, violated a grain right where the wood fit into the sleeve and the bow failed just as I was finishing it up. It is labor intensive fitting the sleeve to your limbs but done right it works just fine. It has a steel outside and brass inside sleeve.

I will send it to you for free if you want to give it a try, I heated it up to get all the epoxy out of it and it needs to be cleaned up.

Eric, what do you use now?  I only have one BBO where I used the same sleeve you are showing and it seems to work fine after maybe 20 years now.

[PatM]

People aren't really saying there's anything inherently wrong with them,  they are just a bit too finicky in fitting.

[Eric Krewson]

I don't make takedowns anymore, my bow making has fallen off after a bad hernia repair that makes drawknife uncomfortable.

[Marc St Louis]

I have experience with 1 commercial steel sleeve and it's not something I would do again.  Making my own out of FG on the other hand....

Which one was it? If you do not wanna share publicly, feel free to send me a private message.

If you mean the one with the commercial sleeve then this was it http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,66411.msg933459.html#msg933459

If you mean the one with an FG sleeve then this was it http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,34568.msg455672.html#msg455672 but it looks like I need to update the pictures

[Bob Barnes]

I don't make takedowns anymore, my bow making has fallen off after a bad hernia repair that makes drawknife uncomfortable.

sorry to hear it Eric... I have seen you post pictures of some really nice bows over the years.

[GlisGlis]

have a look on Simson site
there is a very nice "Homemade take down sleeves" article with detailed description