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Offline Woodely

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Red Oak
« on: September 29, 2019, 07:13:01 pm »
Does RO bend easily using dry heat.  The lams thickness would be about 5/32"  or so thick and 1 1/2" wide.
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Offline Woodely

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2019, 02:54:13 pm »
updated...anyone know that.
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Offline jeffp51

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2019, 03:20:56 pm »
I think steam works better

Offline sleek

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2019, 03:29:49 pm »
I hate red oak, it's a terrible bow wood. I wish you luck. What are you making?
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Offline Woodely

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2019, 05:22:03 pm »
I hate red oak, it's a terrible bow wood. I wish you luck. What are you making?
A regular bow,  hundreds of RO bows built on here.   I wont make a habit of using it,  as a matter of fact this will be the first RO bow for me.  The limbs will be maple backed.
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Offline jeffp51

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2019, 10:36:52 pm »
The oak bows I have made (one white oak, two red oak-both boards early in my learning process)  all took quite a bit of set.  It could have been me, but I think that is pretty normal with oak.  The backing should help a lot.  keep it wide anyway, and it will make a good bow. If you want curves in the tips, I would steam them in, set them with dry heat, and then back with the maple that has also been steamed to shape.

Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 11:14:10 pm »
I didn't have much luck bending it..

Offline Deerhunter21

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2019, 05:57:58 am »
I really dont like RO but it will work. Cant take alot of stress as a board though
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Offline Woodely

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2019, 01:04:35 pm »
Wow...… did not know RO was that bad,  Probably refrain from building one in that case.
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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 01:18:20 pm »
Just wait. There will be a few folks along who advocate it as bow wood. Then you will have two sides of the story to weigh out. My opinion? It makes great trim and cabinets.
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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 01:19:33 pm »
Wow...… did not know RO was that bad,  Probably refrain from building one in that case.

Build it if you got it. It's just a terrible bow wood. Recommended to newbies for ease of access and that's it. Personally,  I'd never recommend it. But, give it a try! You will learn something if you do.
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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 01:25:54 pm »
Just wait. There will be a few folks along who advocate it as bow wood. Then you will have two sides of the story to weigh out. My opinion? It makes great trim and cabinets.


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Offline DLH

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 05:10:16 pm »
Just wait. There will be a few folks along who advocate it as bow wood. Then you will have two sides of the story to weigh out. My opinion? It makes great trim and cabinets.

Do you have high regards for white oak too?

Offline airkah

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 09:21:29 pm »
I prefer steam over dry heat for red oak. For me the dry heat didn't stay as well.

As for its worthiness as a bow wood: I made many red oak board bows before I ever tried another wood. I don't think it is the most forgiving wood, and it isn't a wood I would use if I was wanting to really push the boundaries with. I do think its an okay wood though. It isn't my first choice, but I've made a couple pretty good shooters out of it. I vote try it, and then you'll have your own opinion on it.

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Re: Red Oak
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2019, 12:51:41 am »
Same as Airkah- it certainly isn't 'the best' but you can make a good bow out of it. The trick is getting a super straight grained board so that you can make the back work hard enough.
If the back is left the same width as the belly then yes you will experience what most people do - a fair amount of set. If however you trap the back a good bow can be made from it. Just like a lot of woods described as sub-par - they tend to be very good in tension thus overpowering the belly.

I wouldn't choose it as a belly wood on a lam bow though. There are many better choices.