Thanks Bogman,
Tower, I have not tried axial pressure flutes, I think about it a lot and really need to try it. Speshly on the shorter folsum types.
Snapping points is my speshLT. I'm pretty good at it.

Snapped points can be reworked to look like unsnapped points usually.
What I hate is to get a full length flute on one side and a 1/3rd length flute on the other side.